Hi Robbie

OK I just realised what's going on.  In my script I renumber the input PDB
file (starting at 1 for each chain and incrementing by 1) and keep the
mapping so I can renumber it back afterwards for human consumption.  So
you're completely correct: there is indeed a residue A59 after
renumbering!  This is to avoid headaches with brain-damaged programs that
can't cope with insertion codes and residue numbers out of sequence.  So I
guess I'm going to have to be smarter in my renumbering program and make
sure I maintain any increasing gaps in the numbering which indicate real
gaps in the sequence and only renumber over insertions and decreasing
gaps.  It doesn't actually matter what the new numbers are since the user
never sees them.

But this must be a common problem: how do others handle this?  E.g. pdbset
blindly renumbers with a increment of 1 (and anyway it doesn't renumber any
LINK, SSBOND & CISPEP records as I do) so it would have the same problem.

Cheers

-- Ian


On 18 February 2013 17:09, Robbie Joosten <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> The warning refers to a MET 59 in chain A whereas you only have MET 72.
> That
> is very suspicious. Non-sequential residues further apart than x Angstrom
> automatically get a gap record. Have you tried a newer version of Refmac,
> because this feature was added quite a while ago?
> What is your setting for 'MAKE CONN' when you run Refmac?
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Ian Tickle
> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 17:32
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [ccp4bb] Link problem with Refmac.
> >
> >
> > All, I'm having a problem with Refmac (v. 5.7.0025) that I don't
> understand.
> > It's linking 2 residues that it shouldn't be.  Here's the relevant
> message
> in the
> > log file:
> >
> >   WARNING : large distance for conn:TRANS    dist =    10.768
> >             ch:AA   res:  58  THR             -->  59  MET
> ideal_dist=     1.329
> >
> > Note that there are no LINK (or LINKR) records in the PDB header.
> >
> >
> > Here are the input co-ords for the relevant residues (not linked):
> >
> > ATOM    887  N   THR A  58      13.587   1.365  19.814  1.00 14.28      A
> N
> > ATOM    888  CA  THR A  58      14.743   1.126  18.960  1.00 17.64      A
> C
> > ATOM    890  CB  THR A  58      14.325   0.613  17.567  1.00 17.69      A
> C
> > ATOM    892  OG1 THR A  58      13.605   1.650  16.879  1.00 15.24      A
> O
> > ATOM    894  CG2 THR A  58      13.505  -0.658  17.658  1.00 17.33      A
> C
> > ATOM    898  C   THR A  58      15.573   2.346  18.631  1.00 22.80      A
> C
> > ATOM    899  O   THR A  58      15.144   3.492  18.842  1.00 20.41      A
> O
> > ATOM    956  N   MET A  72      13.605  -6.845  13.378  1.00 43.23      A
> N
> > ATOM    957  CA  MET A  72      12.268  -6.980  12.733  1.00 39.06      A
> C
> > ATOM    959  CB  MET A  72      12.308  -6.361  11.331  1.00 42.06      A
> C
> > ATOM    962  CG  MET A  72      12.455  -4.846  11.320  1.00 43.45      A
> C
> > ATOM    965  SD  MET A  72      13.020  -4.153   9.755  1.00 46.07      A
> S
> > ATOM    966  CE  MET A  72      14.695  -4.789   9.653  1.00 49.84      A
> C
> > ATOM    970  C   MET A  72      11.544  -8.344  12.624  1.00 36.94      A
> C
> > ATOM    971  O   MET A  72      10.314  -8.353  12.558  1.00 34.24      A
> O
> >
> >
> > Here are the same residues (linked) after refinement:
> >
> > ATOM    887  N   THR A  58      14.212   0.104  18.340  1.00 43.09      A
> N
> > ATOM    888  CA  THR A  58      14.332  -1.166  17.541  1.00 45.12      A
> C
> > ATOM    890  CB  THR A  58      12.906  -1.657  17.309  1.00 39.26      A
> C
> > ATOM    892  OG1 THR A  58      12.400  -1.039  16.117  1.00 38.40      A
> O
> > ATOM    894  CG2 THR A  58      12.010  -1.301  18.435  1.00 33.96      A
> C
> > ATOM    898  C   THR A  58      14.805  -1.376  16.064  1.00 59.98      A
> C
> > ATOM    899  O   THR A  58      15.304  -0.470  15.386  1.00 69.73      A
> O
> > ATOM    901  N   MET A  72      14.609  -2.641  15.623  1.00 61.67      A
> N
> > ATOM    902  CA  MET A  72      13.990  -2.997  14.308  1.00 60.32      A
> C
> > ATOM    904  CB  MET A  72      14.898  -2.730  13.093  1.00 71.29      A
> C
> > ATOM    907  CG  MET A  72      14.126  -2.345  11.812  1.00 73.22      A
> C
> > ATOM    910  SD  MET A  72      12.912  -3.499  11.087  1.00 69.42      A
> S
> > ATOM    911  CE  MET A  72      13.917  -4.503   9.996  1.00 63.68      A
> C
> > ATOM    915  C   MET A  72      13.413  -4.438  14.205  1.00 59.57      A
> C
> > ATOM    916  O   MET A  72      12.199  -4.599  14.130  1.00 60.33      A
> O
> >
> >
> > Residues 59-71 are present but in a poorly defined loop so I definitely
> do
> not
> > want residues 58 & 72 linked!  I'm puzzled because I'm sure it never used
> to
> > do this, i.e. you had to specify a LINK if you wanted one and Refmac was
> > smart enough to recognise that residues across a break should not be
> linked.
> > So how do I tell it NOT to link them?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > -- Ian
> >
>

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