Dear fellow CCP4bb'ers,


Generally one to two rounds of streak seeding can change a plate
morphology into a shoebox morphology, but I have found that sometimes
the reason for the plates in the first place is non-homogenity of your
sample. Have you checked the sample by SDS and Native PAGE, and IEF gel
also? You may be co-purifying a protease in your sample that is slowly
chewing up your protein before it crystallizes. Do you have enough
plates (10 or so of decent size) to harvest? You can wash all free
protein off the crystals and then run a MS analysis of what actually
crystallized. This can illuminate potential problems in your sample.
Alternately, you can keep a sample (~30uL @  5-10mg/mL) in the incubator
next to the plates for the amount of time to crystallize, then run MS on
the sample and see if it has changed.



Alternately, if you are confident in the quality and purity of your
sample, Artem Evdokimov has a useful protocol for harvesting fragile
crystals at http://www.xtals.org/pdfs/needles.pdf.  At least he used to,
my IT department is blocking my access right now. I wish you the best of
luck in your attempt to improve your crystals.



Kind regards,

Bryan



From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Raji Edayathumangalam
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 3:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] plate crystal optimization



I hate to take you back to the step of crystallization but have you
tried seeding to improve the crystal morphology/volume? If tinkering
around with cryoprotectants and mounting techniques does not help your
case, seeding might be worth considering. In some of the cases I've
seen, my labmate was able to "transform" plates into 3D crystals. Of
course, if there's good reason one is getting plates in the first
places, seeding may not help. Just to keep that in the back of your mind
given the magical "transformations" I've witnessed.



Good luck!

Raji





On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Phoebe A. Rice <[email protected]>
wrote:

Among many possible reasons, the streaking could be caused mechanical
stress to the thin plates during mounting.  Have you tried those loops
that look like miniature tennis rackets?

  Phoebe



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From: CCP4 bulletin board [[email protected]] on behalf of Rakesh
Chatterjee [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ccp4bb] plate crystal optimization

hello everyone,

i have a protein which co-purifies with a ligand (small molecule ~ 810
Dalton). i didn't know what kind of ligand is it so i am planing to
identify it. meanwhile my protein crystallized as plates and while
diffracting i found that the crystal is showing a good diffraction
pattern upto 2.6 Angstroms in home source Cu K-alpha. however when the
crystal rotates between 90 degrees to 135 degrees, the spots become
streaky. should i try different cryo-MPD/ PEG400 etc? to circuvent the
problem i did some additive screen but was not of much help. any
valuable suggestion willbe handfull.



thanx in advance

rakesh







--
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University


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