Dear all,

this water discussion is flowing increasingly towards a place where I feel a bit out of my depth.

What is the convention for numbering water molecules? Is there preference for:

- putting waters into a separate chain (W for water or S for solvent)?
- splitting waters according to the peptide chains in the structure?
- appending all waters to chain A?


Thanks.


Andreas




On 30/10/2013 11:57, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:
At deposition the PDB runs a script that renumbers authors'  waters
according to a scheme based on the residue they are nearest from N to C
terminus along each chain. This renumbering started  when waters were
assigned to macromolecular chains rather than getting a chain id of
their own.  I have failed to find the rationale explained in any PDB
documents - but it could be motivated by this sort of consideration when
waters from different chains or entries are to be compared. Having said
that I do not know if there are any cases where this approach has
successfully matched waters. ..

However an associated step which is certainly a help is that, in the
case of multiple chains, the crystal symmetry is applied to replace
waters with their symmetry equivalent position if it is closer to a
different chain.

I believe a freely available program implementing a similar approach is
WATERTIDY in CCP4 which might be a good place to start.  It gives a
pretty complete output, detailing residues actually H-bonded to the
waters, and you could parse that for further analysis and comparisons.

Best wishes.
   Martyn

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                  Andreas Förster
     Crystallization and Xray Facility Manager
           Centre for Structural Biology
              Imperial College London

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