Hi James,

I am surprised the PDB contained any data at all at that time - wouldn't
people only submit their models but not the data at that time? ;-)

249GB and even the compressed 249GB data are not a 'tiny' space, as you
actually point out. At 'those days' I had three operating systems
installed on my 400MB disk. Rather we are used to larger disks nowadays,
but most of the time that's only filled with noise. I just took an
arbitrary data set covering 21GB disk space, reduced to 8.6MB hkl-data -
that's only 0.04% non-noise ;-)

Best,
Tim

On 05/14/2014 05:18 PM, James Holton wrote:
> 
> I think 249 GB is uncompressed.  My local copy of the PDB only takes up 20 
> GB, 
> or one Blu-Ray.
> 
> I can remember a time when the whole of the PDB fit onto a single CD-ROM.  
> The 
> PDB booth at the ACA meeting would hand them out for free!  That was 
> impressive 
> to me because CD-R disks were really expensive (to an undergraduate like me 
> anyway), and I had to figure out how to do "multi-session" writes so I could 
> back up my whole hard drive 2 or 3 times before I filled one up.  And, of 
> course, I had to take out my hard drive and go over to that really wealthy 
> lab 
> that had a "CD writer" to do that.  Each write took about an hour, and didn't 
> always work.  Ah, those were the days.
> 
> But yes, it is impressive how so much effort by so many people over so many 
> years can be compressed into such a tiny space.  "Is it not a strange fate 
> that 
> we should suffer so much fear and doubt for so small a thing?"
> 
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/14/2014 7:15 AM, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:
>> I reckon it's two box sets of 25 discs each  - am I calculating that wrong? 
>> Maybe room for a 'making of' feature....
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Jon Agirre <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 May 2014, 14:28
>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone
>>
>> 249GB? That's a whole lot of DVDs!
>>
>>
>> On 14 May 2014 14:08, MARTYN SYMMONS <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Although the line boasting that the PDB adds up to 'more than 249 GBbytes
>>     (sic) of storage' was obviously written by someone from a pre i-tunes
>>     generation....
>>     http://www.wwpdb.org/news/news_2014.html#13-May-2014
>>     ;)
>>
>>     -M.
>>
>>     
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     *From:* mesters <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 May 2014, 13:41
>>     *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone
>>
>>     Amazing, great!
>>
>>     And, which structure ended up as number 100.000?
>>
>>     - J. -
>>
>>
>>     Am 14.05.14 10:42, schrieb battle:
>>>     The Worldwide Protein Data Bank (wwPDB) organization is proud to 
>>> announce
>>>     that the Protein Data Bank archive now contains more than 100,000 
>>> entries.
>>>
>>>     Established in 1971, this central, public archive of
>>>     experimentally-determined protein and nucleic acid structures has 
>>> reached
>>>     a critical milestone thanks to the efforts of structural biologists
>>>     throughout the world.
>>>
>>>     Read the full story at:
>>>     http://www.wwpdb.org/news/news_2014.html#13-May-2014
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Gary Battle
>>>     on behalf on the wwPDB
>>
>>
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