Thank you guys for the replies!  I tried the PISCO method from Marlene Holder. 
It is pretty cool, and clear method which could used directly in PYMOL. Thank 
Thomas Holder for the help of PISCO installation!

I also tried the method from Matthew Franklin. From this method, I learned the 
theory behind the measurement of two planes. It is awesome!

Thank Oliver about the method Geomcalc in CCP4 suit. I will try to get this 
useful software to calculate the "angel" 
 later.

Anyway, thank all the replies here and you guys have a good weekend!

Bing 
________________________________________
From: Oliver Smart [osm...@globalphasing.com]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:36 AM
To: Wang, Bing
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] how to measure the angle between two aromatic ring plane 
in PYMOL?

On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Wang, Bing wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I want to tell an angel between two aromatic planes which comes from two 
> different molecules and cross each other.
>
> First, I tried the easier ways. I presume these two aromatic rings are in the 
> perfect planes, that is why I tried
> plane_wizard.py and draw_plane_cgo.py which work very well. However after I 
> got two plates by plane_wizard or draw_plane, I
> don't know how to measure the angle between these two plates. I also don't 
> know whether I could get the angle I wanted from
> these two ways. I tried vector_angly.py which cann't loaded into pymol 
> properly. If it could, how can i do to get the angel from
> these two plates I drew. Solutions? Since I am in the beginner state, please 
> show me details which i could follow step by step.
>
> Second, If these two aromatic rings are not in the perfect planes, how can i 
> find the best fit planes? And then find the angle
> between the best fit planes? I tried svdplos.py and makeCGOplates.py which 
> are downloaded on line. unfortunately both of these
> can't be loaded into pymol properly. Solutions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bing Wang
>
>

Wang,

I am sure the other replies will sort your problem in PyMOL itself. But I
thought it might be useful for you to consider checking any calculation of
the angle works properly by using the well-established CCP4 tool GEOMCALC:

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/geomcalc.html

I (and others) use the tool to calculate butterfly bend angles in flavin
rings (this involves finding the angle between two mean-plane rings). If
you want any help on running it then contact me off list and I would be
happy to help.

Good luck,

Oliver

PS. I really like the phrase "tell an angel". Paul Emsley's coot refers to
geometry only optimization as "send in the bond angels".

| Dr Oliver Smart                             |
| Global Phasing Ltd., Cambridge UK           |
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