Andre, some suggestions:

 

1.       First be sure that shape reconstructions as an approach to 
interpreting your data is justified – the shape reconstruction approach can be 
quite misleading in some circumstances:

 

                                                               i.      Does 
your data show any evidence of flexibility and lack of compactness from Kratky 
and Porod-Debye analyses? Such aspects can exaggerate molecular volumes, 
undermining the ability to implement shape reconstruction algorithms to arrive 
at stable solutions.  Extra floppy bits like extended linkers his-tags and 
mixtures of conformations can also affect apparent volumes.

 

                                                             ii.      Does your 
data agree with your understanding of molecular mass at those concentrations 
(e.g., Mass by Qr, Mass by I(0), Mass by empirical relationships with Porod 
Volume, etc.).  Does Oligomer/Mixture analysis tell you that you have all 
tetramer, rather than say 95% tetramer/5% dimer…? Is there evidence of 
aggregation or concentration-dependence through multiple concentrations? As one 
can guess, mixtures and aggregation can undermine reliable shape reconstruction 
and interpretation.

 

                                                            iii.      How does 
the atomic inventory of your model compare to that of the reconstruction? 
Commonly, x-ray crystal structures are missing sequences that might otherwise 
be in a full-length/native construct.  If your scattered sample has a 
composition not entirely represented in your atomic model, automated approaches 
might be misled, and doing it by eye might be difficult without obvious 
landmarks or constraints.  It could be very helpful to scatter a few different 
truncations and then to employ simultaneous solution approach used in MONSA.  
Increasing your data-to-parameters always helps!

 

                                                           iv.      How does a 
CRYSOL/FOXS fit between your model and the primary data look, independent of 
the shape reconstruction calculations?

 

                                                             v.      Does a 
symmetry-free (P1) calculation using DAMMIF or GASBOR agree with a 
symmetry-imposed calculation?...What is the distribution of the Normalized 
Spatial Discrepancies (NSDs) and Chis like for 10+ calculations? Is averaging 
justified by the statistics?

 

2.       With regards to software suggestions, in addition to SUPCOMB, I might 
suggest looking at the SITUS/SCULPTOR package.  It uses a real-space approach 
to reconcile atomic models with volumetric representations, and does provide a 
real-space correlation coefficient for fits.  

 

Hope that helps,

 

Kushol

 

Kushol Gupta, Ph.D.

Research Associate - Van Duyne Group

Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics

Perelman School of Medicine at The University of Pennsylvania

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre 
Godoy
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 5:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ccp4bb] [off topic] Fitting unknown model in SAXS envelope

 

Dear users

I'm having some troubles to fit my x-ray model in my SAXS envelope..

more about:

 

1) I have a SAXS model with enough room for 6 monomers.

 

2) I have the crystallographic structure, but AU or any generate symmetry 
related doesn't appears to be the biological unit (I mean, crystal packing is 
different from SAXS packing) 

 

Is there any piece of software that can take monomers and find the best (or 
least worst) RMSD between a SAXS envelope and a generated coordinate system? Or 
anyone have a good ideia for me to do so?

 

All the best,

 

Andre Godoy 
PhD Student 
IFSC - University of Sao Paulo - Brazil

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