Our recent membrane protein structure (4av3) doesn’t have much in the way of 
contacts either, as is characteristic of type 1 membrane protein crystals.

                                                Adrian

On 06 Feb 2015, at 11:51, Andrew Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Just to give a concrete example of Randy's point, PDB entry 2ts1 for tyrosyl 
> tRNA synthetase has "layers" of molecules with no contact between the layers. 
> This is because the domain (residues 320-419) that was providing the contacts 
> in this direction was disordered and could not be modelled (there was very 
> little density in this region). It is perhaps surprising that in spite of the 
> disorder the crystals diffracted very well (2.3Å data collected on film).
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 6 Feb 2015, at 11:16, Randy Read <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, if you go back through the archive of CCP4-BB from the first time 
>> this came up, I think you'll find that there are real crystals with apparent 
>> gaps in the packing.  This can arise because of statistical disorder, where 
>> there are two or more ways that a statistically-disordered layer in the 
>> crystal can mediate the interaction between ordered layers.  So not finding 
>> a connected packing is something to look closely at and worry about, but it 
>> doesn't necessarily indicate that somebody did a bad job of making up a 
>> structure.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> On 6 Feb 2015, at 11:09, Robbie Joosten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not in real crystal structures ;)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Robbie
>>> 
>>> Sent with my Windows Phone
>>> Van: Kerff Fred
>>> Verzonden: ‎6-‎2-‎2015 12:02
>>> Aan: [email protected]
>>> Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Absence of contact between layers in a crystal
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Looking at structure 2HR0 ("The structure of complement C3b provides 
>>> insights into complement activation and regulation. »,Abdul Ajees, A.,  
>>> Gunasekaran, K.,  Volanakis, J.E.,  Narayana, S.V.,  Kotwal, G.J.,  Krishna 
>>> Murthy, H.M.;  (2006) Nature 444: 221-225), I noticed the absence of 
>>> contacts between layers in the crystal. Is it something that has already 
>>> been observed in other crystals?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Fred
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>>> 
>>>> Le 6 févr. 2015 à 10:12, Tim Gruene <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>> 
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>>>> Dear Smith,
>>>> 
>>>> The sca file most likely does not contain flags. pointless can read
>>>> the sca file, standardise it to ccp4 standards and freerflag marks
>>>> random reflections. You should use the maximum of 500 unique
>>>> reflections or 5% of the unique reflections, whichever is larger.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/06/2015 09:49 AM, Smith Lee wrote:
>>>>> Dear All, I have a sca file. Will you please tell me by which
>>>>> software or how I can know whether the sca file contains R-free
>>>>> tags? If not, by which software or how I can add the R-free tags?
>>>>> And how much of the reflections I add the R-free tags? I am looking
>>>>> forward to getting your reply. Smith
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> ------
>> Randy J. Read
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