I also wondered about the statement about oils blocking diffusion of O2.  We 
had lots of trouble keeping things anaerobic in a glove box until we degassed 
the oils and waxes used to mount crystals in capillaries.  We found that 
putting them under vacuum removed much of the dissolved oxygen.  The waxes 
required cycling between heating and vacuum several times.  Ron

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Edward A. Berry wrote:

Do you have evidence that the oil blocks diffusion of O2? O2 is a nonpolar molecule, generally much more soluble in oils than in water. I'm not sure about silicone oils, but I would think they also dissolve O2 readily.
eab

On 03/18/2015 08:02 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote:

Hi Steve

I have one more comment for this thread.

The microbatch-under-oil method is very handy for anaerobic work:

1. You can keep the microbatch stock solutions in normal microtitre plates (polypropylene is best to reduce evaporation) for months, which hugely reduces the amount of degassing that you need to do. You will only use say 0.5 ul of stock per drop.

2. The oil offers a surprising amount of protection from oxidation, which may be helpful eg in harvesting.

3. Microbatch can be automated - in parallel to vapor diffusion if desired


It's amazing how often (aerobic) microbatch produces far superior crystals to V.D. for no obvious reason - it's well worth trying for both screening and optimization.

Best wishes

Patrick



On 11 March 2015 at 10:17, <Stephen Carr> <stephen.c...@rc-harwell.ac.uk <mailto:stephen.c...@rc-harwell.ac.uk>> wrote:

    Dear CCP4BBer's

Apologies for the off-topic post, but the CCP4BB seems to be the best place to ask about crystallisation.

I am looking to set up crystallisation in an anaerobic glove box and wondered how other people did this, specifically the crystallisation stage. My initial thoughts were to place a small crystallisation incubator inside the box, however the smallest I have come across so far (~27L) is still rather large. Has anyone come across smaller incubators? Alternatively are incubators even neccessary if the glove box is placed in a room with good air conditioning and stable temperature control?

    Any recommendations would be very helpful.

    Thanks in advance,

    Steve Carr

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