Hello Jacob,

Quoting you, "Please let me know if you have a case where detwinning saved the 
day".

Well you asked for it so here is one example where twinning saved the day: 
"Crystal structure of pb9..." by Flayhan et al. (2014), J. Virol. 88 (2), 
820-828. Without detwinning I think there would have been no crystal structure 
in the end...

Cheers,

Fred.

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keller, 
Jacob
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ccp4bb] Why Does Detwinning Not Work?

Dear Crystallographers,

Based on some data sets I have looked at and anecdotal-type evidence here and 
there I have gotten the impression that detwinning does not help in structure 
solution. (Please let me know if you have a case where detwinning saved the 
day.) Is there a clear answer to this enigma anywhere, to anyone's knowledge? 
Wouldn't it seem that *any* detwinning would be better than *no* detwinning? I 
understand that the errors explode as one approaches 50% twins and does 
detwinning, but still, I don't think one *loses* information by detwinning, 
right? Take the case of a 33% twin: since the twin-reflections are on average 
about half the intensity of the non-twin, and since they are generally not 
correlated in intensity, isn't this like having noise added at 50% of the 
measured intensity? So why does detwinning make things worse generally? Is 
there something wrong in the assumptions underlying the detwinning algorithm, 
or perhaps something about the calculation that throws things off?

A related sub-enigma: why is MR generally immune to twinning, but anomalous 
methods are susceptible?

All the best,

Jacob Keller

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