Hi Lingyuan

I would certainly make a seed stock and use it with RANDOM screens - this
will (usually) allow you to pick up new conditions and control the number
of crystals per drop.

However you say your crystals melt easily when you harvest them.  I don't
know how David stabilized his seedstock (if he did) but you may be able to
stabilize yours with a precipitant.

In all the cases that we looked at we found that if you soaked uncrushed
crystals in a precipitant (or cocktail) and the crystals were unchanged
after 24 hours, then the precipitant/cocktail could be used to make a
seedstock.

In practice 100% PEG 600 worked for 5 of the 6 model proteins that we
looked at.  The remaining seedstock worked with seed crystals suspended in
4M amm. sulfate.

I hope it works for you.

Best wishes, Patrick


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Ref for stabilizing seed stocks with various precipitants:

Shaw Stewart, P.D., Kolek, S.A., Briggs, R.A., Chayen, N.E. and Baldock,
P.F., 2011. Random microseeding: a theoretical and practical exploration of
seed stability and seeding techniques for successful protein
crystallization.*Crystal Growth & Design*, *11*(8), pp.3432-3441.



Ref for random microseeding:

D'Arcy A, Villard F, Marsh M. An automated microseed matrix-screening
method for protein crystallization. Acta Crystallographica Section D:
Biological Crystallography. 2007 Apr 1;63(4):550-4.





On 19 October 2016 at 15:20, Hargreaves, David <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been presented with crystals grown in nmr tubes on two separate
> occasions. Both diffracted very well and thankfully, neither required a
> magnetic field for optimisation. On the first occasion I did use the
> initial sample as a seed stock.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *
> kiki
> *Sent:* 18 October 2016 11:42
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Crystals grow at the bottom of the tube.
>
>
>
> Dear all users,
>
>
>
>  I got my crystals at the bottom of the tube on ice just before I started
> to screen crystals. Those crystals' shapes were good but easy to melt when
> I harvested them. I shot these crystals. They only diffracted to 7A to 8A.
> Has anyone ever met this situation before? How to improve?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lingyuan
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