es - look carefully at your data quality indicators - batch scales, Wilson
plot - moments etc.. tHese can show up if there is a problem with ice rings
or crystal decay or whatever.
Then I always look at the REFMAC plot of <Fobs> v <Fcalc>
If they overlap well - good - but problems with scaling will show up there.

Eleanor

On 14 December 2016 at 15:21, Mark J van Raaij <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Rohit,
>
> I wouldn’t judge a structure just by the Rwork and Rfree values, but also
> by the validation and other statistics (bond lengths, angles, Ramachandran
> plot, map quality, fit to map, average B values). If these are all ok, you
> should be able to “get away with” an Rfree of 33%.
> In your email you state that you have already made a significant effort in
> different refinement strategies, so perhaps there is no improvement to be
> made there.
> The reason for the high-ish Rfree could be that the data is not so good,
> and reprocessing might help. Although the most likely outcome is that you
> can’t significantly improve it, but at least trying will put your mind more
> at ease.
> In the end, the only way to improve the structure, and R-factors, may be
> to grow a better crystal, cryo-protect better and/or collect better data -
> this particular crystal may just have some kind of disorder.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Mark J van Raaij
> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
> calle Darwin 3
> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
> http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 14 Dec 2016, at 16:02, rohit kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I am solving a data of 2.5 A (C121 space group). Right now the R/Rfree
> values are 26/33, after many cycles of refinements (With or With out water)
> the R/Rfree values still same. Zanuda suggests that the space group seems
> to be correct and the model is looking fine in coot.
> > Some one suggest what is the main problem.
> > Should I again process my data? And what is the best way to fine right
> space group (If problem with space group).
> > Please tell me if you need any information regarding may data.
> >
> > --
> > WITH REGARDS
> > Rohit Kumar Singh
> > Lab. no. 430,
> > P.I. Dr. S. Gourinath,
> > School of Life Sciences,
> > Jawaharlal Nehru University
> > New Delhi -110067
>

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