thanks all. I recon I have the ESRF data sorted.. but Daresbury.. am I right in 
assuming MARCCD or are we going back as far as image plate?
here is the image header
Harry what do you think

HEADER_BYTES=  512;
DIM=2;
BYTE_ORDER=little_endian;
TYPE=unsigned_short;
PIXEL_SIZE=0.08160;
BIN=none;
ADC=slow;
DETECTOR_SN=421;
DATE=Wed Apr 13 17:59:22 2005;
TIME=20.00;
DISTANCE=125.000;
OSC_RANGE=1.000;
PHI=7.000;
OSC_START=7.000;
AXIS=phi;
WAVELENGTH=1.48800;
BEAM_CENTER_X=94.700;
BEAM_CENTER_Y=96.400;
UNIF_PED=1500;
SIZE1=2304;
SIZE2=2304;
CCD_IMAGE_SATURATION=65535;
}


-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Derbyshire 
Sent: den 31 januari 2019 10:50
To: 'graeme.win...@diamond.ac.uk' <graeme.win...@diamond.ac.uk>; 'Luca Jovine' 
<luca.jov...@ki.se>
Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] old data

ok may have lied.. not just 1 dataset i note.

Daresbury 14-1 on 19th April 2005. (I'm assuming MAR image plate but!) 

ESRF ID23-1 on 4th September 2007.
ESRF ID23-1 on 8th November 2007.
ESRF ID23-1 on 25th June 2008.
ESRF ID23-1 on 11th February2010.

I will post the headers in a sec

:)

-----Original Message-----
From: graeme.win...@diamond.ac.uk [mailto:graeme.win...@diamond.ac.uk]
Sent: den 31 januari 2019 10:42
To: Dean Derbyshire <dean.derbysh...@medivir.com>
Cc: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] old data

Hi Dean

Usually there is a serial number buried somewhere in the header - many are text 
headers though some have TIFF format binary headers. Often a timestamp as well 
though this is less common

From there biosync may help e.g.

http://biosync.sbkb.org/beamlineupdatehistory.jsp?region=european&synch_id=esrf&bmln_name=BM14&height=400&width=600

(the list of ESRF MX beamlines is short so should not be too painful)

Knowing the format, filename you can probably pin it down or if you share a 
little more info someone on the BB will know

All the best Graeme



On 31 Jan 2019, at 09:38, Dean Derbyshire 
<dean.derbysh...@medivir.com<mailto:dean.derbysh...@medivir.com>> wrote:

maybe a silly question it there a data base or other way to tell what detector 
was used to collect historic data. Image header isn’t hugely helpful ESRF is 
all I know for the source but I’d like to know what the detector was at the 
time… -  I’m talking 2005-2010

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