We were looking at these, they look like fun.

https://www.wetkeys.com/Soft-touch-Comfort-Hygienic-Washable-Keyboard-USB-p/kbstfc106-w.htm



On Tue, May 5, 2020, 7:20 PM James Holton <jmhol...@lbl.gov> wrote:

> All joking aside, there has been a furor of attention on UV-based
> disinfection of late.  Some of it is not entirely crazy.  I.E. Columbia
> University’s Center for Radiological Research has put forward the idea of
> illuminating occupied public areas with ultra-narrow-band UV-C (222 nm).
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5552051/
>
> Mind you, UV-C normally covers 100 - 280 nm, and the PPE requirements for
> that (at LBNL at least) are extensive: polycarbonate safety glasses and
> face shield with a mark U6 (UV protection), long-sleeved clothing, and
> gloves.  Basically: do not expose skin!
>
> The idea behind using monochromatic 222 nm radiation is that it is at the
> edge of a very steep increase in the absorption of water, protein, and
> other biologicals.  Penetration depths are hard to estimate because of the
> steep slope, but they are on the order of 1 micron.  So, smaller than a
> typical mamalian cell, but bigger than a bacterium or virus.  The paper
> above did not have any human subjects, nor did it discuss how to deal with
> all the ozone, but the results are intruiging. Needs further study.
>
> Personally, I think this would probably fog your corneas and perhaps burn
> the thin skin on lips and other exposed mucosa. Hair I'd expect to
> embrittle and fall apart eventually. Yes, hair is 40 microns thick and the
> penetration depth is 1 micron, but photon's don't "stop" at the penetration
> depth.  36% of them go deeper. Plastic in keyboards too would probably
> bleach and flake with prolonged exposure.  Ever seen a keyboard left out in
> the sun for a few weeks?  I'd worry a bit about this micro-damage creating
> crevices where bugs could hide.
>
> I encourage you to bring this up with your Health and Safety people, but
> make sure they are sitting down first.
>
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
>
> On 4/29/2020 12:41 PM, Andrea Thorn wrote:
>
> Hi Tim!
>
>
> 100% alcohol is less effective than 80%, and in order to completely be
> sure, the keyboard needs not only to be wiped. One can buy keyboards that
> can be disinfected because they are waterproof, such as the Cherry
> JK-1068DE-2 for about 50 €.
>
>
> We clean the keyboards in our lab occasionally anyway, and have used 70%
> alcohol on them without problem. Disinfectant wipes, a detergent cleaner
> (such as Viss Glass & Flächen) and cotton swabs also offer some help. We
> wipe our mobile phones with a disinfectant wipe after washing our hands
> when arriving home/at work.
>
> I would also be really interested in what could be done with a UV light,
> if someone knows?
>
> If the computer is used by one person during the shift, individual
> keyboards for each person could be a solution. If people sit down, the desk
> surface, which may be touched, should likely also be wiped at the beginning
> and end of the shift I would say.
>
> Stay save and best wishes,
>
>
>
> Andrea.
>
>
>
> Am 29/04/2020 um 21:04 schrieb Diana Tomchick:
>
> ​100% ethanol or isopropanol work really well on the microscopes, I soak a
> Kimwipe and then clean the eyepieces and the knobs for changing
> magnification and focus, as well as the door handles, bench tops, etc.
>
>
> Diana
>
>
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> ​You could try doing what my technician does with her keyboard; she wraps
> it in a clear, thin food wrap that can be taped to the back of the
> keyboard. This is usually done to keep food and other things (liquids) from
> damaging the keyboard, but you could simply replace the wrap every time
> someone else uses it.
>
>
> Personally I like using a Kimwipe soaked with 100% isopropanol, I've never
> yet encountered a keyboard that suffered from having the writing removed
> with that or 100% ethanol. Both work and as long as they are 100% (no
> water), the keyboard and mouse have no issues.
>
>
> Diana
>
>
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>
> Dear all,
>
> can you make suggestions for how to disinfect computer keyboards, and
> instrument panels?
>
> Our facility is going to reboot next week, with shifts so that people
> don't meet. The main interface will be the computer keyboards, as well
> as the door of our X-ray diffractometer and the mounting of the
> crystals.
>
> The keyboard labels may not like alcohols (and the efficiency of
> injecting disinfecting through the USB cable is also under discussion,
> so I heard).
>
> One way would be to use individual keyboards, and wearing gloves for
> replugging, and to use gloves for mounting crystals.
>
> But maybe there are other ways that won't require gloves?
>
> Best regards,
> Tim
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