This jogged my memory of a CCP4 newsletter article many years ago covering 
kinematical versus dynamic scattering in protein crystals and offering a 
correction that could be used. I think it was Lindsay Sawyer and Igor 
Polikarpov in the late 90’s. I apologize if I have the authors wrong but I 
thought it was a commentary well ahead of its time and with modern sources and 
low noise detectors, I am wondering if anyone has revisited this? Protein 
crystals are remarkably high quality until you cryocool them. Serial methods 
combined with instrument capabilities may rate a revisit to the use of the 
kinematical approximation versus application of dynamical theories? Certainly 
the computational power is available.

Just my 2 cents for the day.

Best,

Eddie


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From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> On Behalf Of James Holton
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Strange Pseudosymmetry Effects

Be careful with electron diffraction and apparent absence violations. It is 
possible these weak spots are simply due to multiple scattering.  If so, you 
would see them relatively stronger with larger crystals,but much weaker 
relative to the strong reflections when the crystal is smaller. Do you?

-James Holton
MAD Scientist
On 5/27/2020 6:49 PM, Jessica Bruhn wrote:
Hello,

I am wondering if pseudosymmetry can cause weak reflections that mimic the 
doubling of one unit cell axis' length. Has anyone seen something like this 
before?

 I am processing data from a small molecule sample collected with electron 
diffraction from multiple crystals. For the b axis, it is not clear if the 
length should be 10A or 20A. There are spots with the correct spacing for 
b=20A, but every other spot seems weaker than the spots along k if I choose 
b=10A (this extends beyond (0,k,0)). I am unable to phase the b=20 data. I have 
solved this structure in P1 with b=10 and found four molecules in the ASU and 
in P212121 with b=10 resulting in one molecule in the ASU. In P1, three of the 
four molecules adopt the same conformation, but the fourth molecule is in an 
alternate conformation that causes only ~1/2 of the molecule to be consistent 
with the first three. In P212121 I see density for part of this alternative 
conformation, but the full molecule in this alternate conformation cannot pack 
properly in P212121. Based on these results and some orthogonal data, I think I 
should refine the solution in P1 with b=10. Does it seem reasonable that 
pseudosymmetry is causing these weak reflections along k hinting at a doubling 
of the b axis?

Thanks in advance!

Best,
Jessica

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