Hi Matthew,

thanks for the thought.

Yes, I agree, that it is average whole lot of conformations. I am aware of  FEMs, it is great tool, but I got similar results as with Polder maps.

Modelling just the "main chain" and calling it Jeffamin, is also an option I was considering. It is part of the question, how to do properly for the PDB deposition. If I do just the Jeffamin "mainchain", it would be effectively PEG library, but not named as PEG. I think that would be confusing.

However, really treating it as aa residue with invisible sidechain is interesting option. Our lab consensus is to keep the atoms, but reduce occupancy to almost 0. I think, I could do that for the methyl groups in Jeffamin.

Best regards,

Jan


On 8/19/22 11:42, Matthew Snee wrote:
Hi

It is likely that your density is a consensus of multiple different jeffamines binding at different rotational orientations, so that at 2.6A the methyl groups are essentially averaged out, and therefore the density may not exist to be found.

Phenix has a tool called "feature enhanced maps" which is designed to reverse the flattening of weak features, but I find its important to have the best possible phases (I.E most accurate model) before using it.

I suppose you could model jeffamine, and delete the methyl groups (I.E treat is like a residue with an unresolved sidechain).

Cheers

Matthew.
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*From:* CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> on behalf of Jan Stransky <[email protected]>
*Sent:* 18 August 2022 10:37
*To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
*Subject:* [ccp4bb] Polymer ligand (Jefffamin) modeling in low resolution maps
Dear all,

we have a structure at not the greatest resolution (~2.6A) of which
crystal was grown in crystallization condition with Jeffamin. In the
maps, we see typical  PEG-like sausages. Jeffamin is basically a PEG
decorated with some methyl groups and it is terminated with amine groups.

Now, the question is how to interpret such blobs? To my understanding
the methyl decoration is not regular, and it is not obviously visible in
the maps. Nor is clear, if there is a contact to the amine group. When
we tried to put in PEG models as placeholders, it explains the density
fine, but the contacts  are nothing great, e.g. position of the oxygens
in the polymer is  not clear.

Calculating Polder maps does not clear things  up.

How would you deal with interpretation such maps?

Thank you for your ideas :-)

Jan

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