Hi Rafael

That would be okay for current PDB entries - I don’t actually know of any for 
which the IDs break out into the pdb_0000 prefix yet. 

However, I can’t borrow other PDB ids because sometimes I would need to be able 
to reference the correct entry from my re-written PDB.

Best wishes

Harry 

> On 15 Jul 2026, at 15:20, Rafael Marques <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Harry, 
> 
> If the file format is the problem, what I tend to do, for practical terms, is 
> opening the .mmCIF file in Pymol and save it as .pdb. I have never faced 
> myself a problem because the name of the file is not XXXX.pdb or it is 
> blablablabla.pdb as long the extension is still .pdb. If, for whatever 
> reason, a software needs a four letter code to work, I would just borrow an 
> existing pdb code and change it later on (like if you are about to deposit) 
> to its appropriate name. 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
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> De: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> em nome de Harry Powell 
> <[email protected]>
> Enviado: quarta-feira, 15 de julho de 2026 12:42
> Para: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Assunto: [ccp4bb] "Correct" way to deal with longer PDB entry IDs in PDB 
> format files?
>  
> Hi folks
> 
> Probably a naïve question, but although I try to work with mmCIF files, 
> occasionally I need to convert coordinates to the legacy PDB format for 
> legacy programs that simply don’t understand mmCIF and never will.
> 
> One thing that I need to do is to write the PDB ID into the HEADER line in 
> the PDB file; conventionally, I’d write this into columns 63-66 (as per the 
> documentation), and this is fine while I have an entry like “pdb_00007al9”; 
> however, what should I do if I have an entry like “pdb_00237al9”?
> 
> I can see that this will probably never have a single correct answer since we 
> should all be using mmCIF anyway, but I wondered what other people might do? 
> 
> I’d be inclined to extend the ID into columns 60 - 63, which would future 
> proof _me_ until I retire properly, but might not work for the young folk who 
> will be working long after that!
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Harry
> 
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