> On Jun 29, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
> 
> On 2015-06-29 1:26 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> There's reason to believe it's "Chalet". See my previous mail for a link to 
>>> one revival of that family.
>> 
>> I looked at that.  There are plenty of variations, but none of them match at 
>> all.  Take a look at the 11/45 processor handbook, or the peripherals 
>> handbook (for example the 1976 edition).  The inside cover page is 
>> particularly helpful because it shows the company name for an additional 
>> bunch of characters.
>> 
>> If you mix & match letters from all the different variants of Chalet
> (like the a from Paris 1980 but the k from Paris 1970) you can get
> closer. But that’s not plausible,
> 
> 
> I worked in graphic design for a long time. Modifications and substitutions 
> of any kind are not unusual in a logo. So yes, it's plausible, but just 
> annoying when reverse engineering it later, of course.

For a logo, absolutely.  For a house style typeface used as display text in 
manuals and for panel labels, not quite so likely.

> ...
> This *could* be due to differences betwen the House revival and the original 
> Chalet font. The next research step could be to find specimens of the latter.
> 
> Or perhaps it was indeed a "custom font" as you said earlier, "based on" 
> Chalet or something like it, with variant letters cherry picked. That 
> explanation might satisfy everyone. :) I think it's pretty unlikely that a 
> font will be discovered that is a better match than Chalet out of the box, 
> though.

Perhaps.  I think the similarities are faint enough that I would not point to 
Chalet any more than I would point to Avant Garde.  Designed from scratch by a 
guy with a set of drafting tools seems more likely to me.  But unless someone 
with first hand knowledge comes along, as was done for the 7-block digital 
logo, all this will likely remain speculation.

Meanwhile, if you want a font file that’s a better match than Chalet, try the 
“handbook” font I created some years ago from the DEC document samples I have 
on hand.

        paul


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