Thanks Marc.

What I’ve done is about all I have time for at the moment.  Between work and 
prep’ing for potential fire evacuations (they’re expecting ~300 wild fires in 
my area this fire season…we’ve only had about 6 so far…so I expect *a lot* more 
soon) all of my time is gone.  :-(

TTFN - Guy

> On Aug 15, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I found Brent Hilpert’s site most useful in getting a quick meaning for these 
> numbers:
> http://madrona.ca/e/HP21xx/index.html
> http://madrona.ca/e/HP21xx/iointerfaces.html
> There is also a very useful series 1000 reference manual that lists most of 
> the configs and options and cards, I will get to it when I am home and try to 
> send you a link.
> 
> My experience is that you absolutely have to open them up to figure out what 
> they actually are. They are so modular and upgradable and interchangeable 
> that the original config sticker rarely matches what’s inside. Actually, I 
> have yet to see one that has a config that matches the factory sticker. 
> Sometimes the motherboard isn’t even the series that the front panel says!
> 
> Also you need to find out what optional microcode ROMs they are fitted with 
> (extended/virtual memory, fast fortran, vector, scientific, etc...) to know 
> what version of RTE they can actually run, and which boot ROMs are installed. 
> That said they are very easy to take apart, just open front and back, slide 
> out top and bottom covers, slide the cards out, and admire the modular 
> design. They are also very well documented.
> 
> Marc
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctalk <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps these will help? 
>> https://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?hwimg=108 
>> http://www.datormuseum.se/computers/hewlett-packard/hp-21mx 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Guy Sotomayor Jr" <[email protected]> 
>> To: "myself" <[email protected]>, "cctalk" <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 3:04:31 PM 
>> Subject: Re: Identification of an HP minicomputer 
>> 
>> It’s a 9-slot variant that says HP-1000 M-Series on the front panel. From 
>> what I can tell the front panel appears to be the same as any of the other 
>> HP-1000 series. 
>> 
>> What I’m trying to figure out is what the actual CPU configuration is 
>> without disassembly (which I still need to figure out) so that I can 
>> actually examine the boards. 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> TTFN - Guy 
>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctalk 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Can you provide a picture of the front panel? 
>>> 2113 implies a 21MX-E; the nine-slot version is a 2109 while the 
>>> fourteen-slot would be a 2113. 
>>> This might help - https://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=109 . 
>>> 
>>> From: "cctalk" <[email protected]> 
>>> To: "cctalk" <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:52:18 PM 
>>> Subject: Identification of an HP minicomputer 
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> I have sitting in my pile of stuff an HP minicomputer that I’m trying to 
>>> identify (at least in terms of exactly what it is and what sort of 
>>> configuration it might have). 
>>> 
>>> As far as I can tell, it’s an HP-1000 M-Series minicomputer (that should 
>>> hopefully get us *some* details). The “asset tag” lists the part number as 
>>> 2113023-108. Looking at the back there’s space for 9 I/O cards (5 are 
>>> occupied). 
>>> 
>>> So my question is which of the several CPUs could this be and how do I tell 
>>> (for example) what the configuration is (e.g. how much memory, etc). 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have looked on bitsavers, but short of disassembling the box to look 
>>> at the (at least) 2 boards that are below the I/O slots, I can’t tell 
>>> what’s there and I’d like to see if there’s a way to determine what this is 
>>> without resorting to disassembly. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> TTFN - Guy 

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