The only things I remember about APL were: 1. Square <backspace> divide symbol formed something that looked like a domino (1 over 1) and was the random number generator. 2. Someone always finds a way to do a moderate sized task in one line of code. The ultimate obfuscated code contest.
Marc On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:35 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 3/30/2020 6:29 PM, Marc Howard wrote: > > Stupid question time. I last used APL in a class in 1975. Back then > you needed a magic terminal and/or a magic Selectric typeball. How does > one input or print a program on a PDP-11 with mere mortal equipment? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marc Howard > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:07 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > > > On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote: > > > > > > Bill, > > > I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I > will make it available at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip < > http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip> > > > > > > Once you mount the disk image with Simh, the are two ready to > run task images that will run under RSX11M or M+ > > > In [201,200]APL6OK.TSK and APL7OK.TSK that are the REAL*4 and > REAL*8 versions of APL-11. On the disk are the > > > Original .MAC sources as well as files from a RSX SIG tape that > modified APL-11 for I/D under RSX11M+ that increased > > > The workspace (.BXWA from ~30000 to ~60000 bytes). It also > contains a character set for Vt220 for the APL character set. > > > > > > When you install the APL task experiment with the /INC to > maximize the available workspace, On my system, I can > > > INS APL6.TSK/INC=37000 to max the workspace for the single > precision version. > > > > > > Also, the scanned APL-11 reference manual can be downloaded at > http://www.rsx11m.com/APL-11-Ref-Man.pdf < > http://www.rsx11m.com/APL-11-Ref-Man.pdf> > > > and the APL11 installation guide at > http://www.rsx11m.com/APL11ins.pdf <http://www.rsx11m.com/APL11ins.pdf> > > > > > > The RSX SIG files that have the info to change APL-11 to an > I/D RSX11M+ task are at [370,360] on the RL02 disk. I remember having this > work back in the mid-1980s butI have not been able to get it to work today. > If I link it with ODT it seems to blow up when the first overlay is loaded. > If anyone could help with that I’d really appreciate it! > > > > > > Best, > > > Mark > > > > Thanks Mark! > > > > > > I remember we had APL at Rose-Hulman when I was in college there > from 1978-1983. At first I thought it was on the VAX-11/780 that showed up > over the summer of 1980, but now I realize it had to have been on our > PDP-11/70 running RSTS/E. Probably APL-11 V1.X since it was there in the > Fall of 1978 when I started. We had a couple of DEC LA36's with the APL > character set and keyboards. > > > > -- > > John H. Reinhardt > > > Marc, > > On page 1-5 of the APL-11 Reference Manual that Mark posted there is a > table showing the ACII equivalents for the special APL character set. > There are also instructions there on how to do it. It's a combination of > characters and backspaces. Kinda tough on a video terminal but workable on > a printer. > > -- > John H. Reinhardt > >