On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:35 PM Adrian Godwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:09 PM Tony Duell via cctalk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> A couple of questions if anyone has experience of this machine :
>>
>> 1) There is a 5 pin DIN socket for connecting an external video
>> monitor. The signals seem to be TTL-level separate syncs at European
>> TV rates (15625Hz horizontal, 50Hz vertical) and separate (not
>> composite) 4-level analogue video.
>>
>> I believe Philips sold a 12" monitor to connect there. What was the
>> model number? Is a service manual availabe?
>>
>> Has anybody linked other monitors to that socket?
>
>
> Hi Tony,
> I enjoyed the restoration description :)
>
> Maybe the popular CM8333 ? I think it was also badged - perhaps with a 
> different interface - as the Commodore 1084.
> It kind of took over from the BBC Microvitec Cub (15kHz, TTL RGB) as an early 
> Archimedes colour monitor.

I know it well, but it is unlikely to be the monitor I am looking for here :

It's colour (and the P2000C is clearly a monochrome output).While that
it no real barrier, I doubt Philips would have wasted a colour CRT in
that way

I has a SCART socket so either composite PAL video (if you have the
decoder stuff fitted, a lot do not) or analogue RGB with composite
sync.So not a direct connection to the P2000C's separate syncs

Is it 12"? Something is telling me it's a 14" CRT but I am not gong to
dig mine out to check. The service manual implies it is over 12"
diagonal.


>
> https://blog.roberthargreaves.com/2016/04/16/cm8833-repair
>
> I have a Logica VTS Kennet 2400 from about 1985. It was an MS-DOS machine 
> when those could exist without being PC-compatible. It also had SASI  : the 
> interface isn't much more than buffer and latch, but formed the basis for 
> SCSI. We used either a Xebec controller or Adaptec. with ST506 discs. It's a 
> very simple interface,  a subset and predecessor of SCSI I think. I have 
> extensive manuals for the machine which include the SASI interface  and the 
> command set. I did have a SASI controller on it at one time - it might still 
> be there.

The Phlips service manual for the P2000C includes the schematics of
the SASI interfae on the main PCB. It's simple, mostly TTL I/O ports.
I can't believe the device-side interface is any worse.

And assuming I'm right about the Xebec board I have the command set too.

-tony

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