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On Mar 9, 2023, at 10:57 PM, John Maxwell via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
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>>> On 3/9/23 10:16 AM, John Maxwell wrote:
>>> Nowhere do I see any mention of a Model 80 Reference Disk. If you 
>>> don't have one of these, you will not be able to configure the machine.
>> 
> 
> Is there a repository to where I can upload diskette images? What format is 
> in widespread use these days? I use DiskImage (Ver5) and Dave Dunfield's 
> ImageDisk (Ver1.17) - both work well. I seem to recall that DiskImage is a 
> commercial product and ImageDisk is still available for free.


Some may disagree , but i upload stuff like this to the Internet Archive.

> 
>>> ADFs were text files with descriptions of hardware addresses and the 
>>> like.
> 
>> That sounds like what I remember.
> 
>>> Not sure of what you mean by 'Rifas' in the last question. Probably an 
>>> acronym or other abbreviation of something I may know about, but 
>>> nothing comes to my foggy brain presently.
> 
>> My understanding is that RIFA is a brand of capacitor which had a model like 
>> which is notorious for failing after time and they seemed to be common in 
>> the '90s.
> 
> Not sure that IBM would use cheap *anything* in their equipment.
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> *nod*  That's what I was referring to as sticktion.
> 
> A word of warning, the "inertial rotation" procedure was great for smaller 
> drives, but you may break your arm applying this to an ESDI :-)
> 
>> I don't know the state of the bearings.  Is there anything that I can or 
>> should do for them?
> 
> Aside from dismantling the drive, not really. Just cross your fingers and 
> pray. Usually not a problem. I have an ST225 which had been powered off for 
> two decades and it came up fine in my DEC Rainbow!
> 
>>> The battery used is one of the old 6V photoflash types (cannot recall 
>>> the model, unfortunately). I have a few of them left in my collection 
>>> - just ran into them in a box (with 2 or 3 left) a few months ago. 
>>> Each still had over 6v (no load) at the terminals. No idea how long 
>>> they would last in application under load, though, even though the 
>>> Model
>>> 80 didn't use too much current to hold things in config memory.
> 
>> ACK
> 
>> My assumption is that the Model 80 has been powered off for years, if not a 
>> decade or more.  It's on the older end of a five computers I picked up from 
>> someone >who wanted them hauled away.  I'm not holding my breath that they 
>> powered the PS/2 on anytime in the last decade.  ;-)
> 
> It is my belief that these batteries should still be available from 
> somewhere. If I think of it when I get home, I'll dig out the box and relay 
> the model number. Provided that the box is still where I remember.
> 
>>> Just my $0.02 (not even sure it was worth that much). Good luck with 
>>> your 80.
> 
>> Thank you.  You're sharing things that seem familiar.  Which is appreciated 
>> because it means that my memory isn't that far out of calibration or bit rot.
> 

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