>From memory, when I looked into doing this I found that the RQDX3 BA23 
>distribution panel maps DS2 from the contriller to all DS pins on  the B cable 
>of one drive and DS3 to all DS lines on the other. I never did test the theory 
>though. I did not get a special adapter from decromancer.
Hope it helps
Nigel


On August 12, 2023 6:35:35 p.m. EDT, Peter Coghlan via cctalk 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a Gesswein MFM emulator from decromancer.ca; who offer an adaptor
>> that yields a 2nd MFM data connector.
>> I'll use mine in a Microvax 2000.  Does anyone know how to hook it up as
>> two  MFM drives in a Microvax 2000?
>> 
>> The vendor sold a 1in high adaptor box, BA40A, with DD50 connectors to a
>> second cabinet (same as CPU box) for a second drive.
>> DEC configured both primary and secondary drives identically (drive 3, IIRC).
>> The Microvax 2000 Technical Manual gives the pinout from the mother board
>> to the MFM/floppy daughterboard, but I can't find the pinout from that
>> daughterboard to the cables anywhere.
>>
>> I've been looking for a BA40A, for some years now,  to trace the pin layout
>> for a 2nd drive.   Does anyone know it? 
>> Has anyone successfully configured a single MFM emulator  as two MFM drives
>> in a Microvax 2000?  Or to an RQDX3?
>>
>
>I've had two real MFM drives running with one of my VAXstation/MicroVAX 2000
>machines but it is a long time since I've looked at this stuff so I'm not
>certain of the details.
>
>I didn't use any adapter box or cables with DD connectors.  I only had the
>original DEC ribbon cable that connects from the VAX motherboard to one MFM
>drive and one RX33 floppy drive.  I used this as a guide to make up a new
>longer cable with an extra 34 pin edge connector in parallel with the first
>MFM drive control connector.  I ran this cable out through the hole in the
>bottom of the case where the cable to the adapter box was intended to run
>so that the added connector could be placed on an external MFM drive.
>I also connected a straight through 20 pin IDC to edge connector ribbon cable
>salvaged from a PC from the vacant 20 pin IDC connector on the VAX motherboard
>to the data connector on the second MFM drive, running it out through the
>same hole in the VAX case.
>
>IIRC I had to jumper the second MFM drive as drive 4.  Presumably I should
>have made a twist in the cable to allow the second MFM drive to be configured
>as drive 3, the same as the first drive.
>
>I think the first MFM drive showed up as DUA0, the second one as DUA1 and the
>floppy as DUA2.
>
>I recall an incident when I tried to connect one particular second MFM drive
>externally and the VAX refused to power up.  It seemed the overcurrent trip
>was operating in the power supply and the extra drive appeared to be the
>cause of this.  I'm a bit hazy on exactly what I did to try to get around
>this issue, I suspect I tried powering up the VAX with the drive disconnected
>and connecting it after power up.  Anyway, the upshot was that one or two of
>the conductors in the 20 pin data cable got extremely hot and the insulation
>on them started to smoke before I quickly switched off.  I'm not sure but I
>think the reason was that the particular drive placed an unfused +5V on some
>pins on the data connector and the corresponding pins were grounded at the
>VAX end.  Or it could be the other way around...  Luckily there was no damage
>to anything other than the cable.
>
>Regards,
>Peter Coghlan.

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