Yet we have a few datapoints showing that a dead NVRAM/RTC still boot 
UltraBooks just fine! As I said, I personally confirmed with my UltraBook IIe. 
Pretty sure the NVRAM is dead in my SPARCbook too, I can confirm that today.

Thanks,
Jonathan

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On Thursday, September 28th, 2023 at 05:08, erik--- via cctalk 
<cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:


> 
> 
> > Hmmm, not sure on that one actually. So it does not boot up at all?
> 
> 
> Yes - exactly!
> 
> > In the desktop Sun workstations and e.g. the Tadpole SparcBook, a lost 
> > NVRAM at least
> > shows the firmware prompt on the screen (no HOSTID and no ethernet MAC).
> 
> 
> Yes, that is different in the UltraBooks. There is very likely some deep 
> hardware specific stuff in the NVRAM. In Tafpoles, SparcStations and similar 
> (I have some of them) there is NEVER a sticker with the serial numer on the 
> NVRAM, but in the UltraBooks there is. That is also anindication for me, that 
> the NVRAM is paired to the hardware.
> 
> > situation is not as severe as with the UltraBooks where the screen remains 
> > black/dark and
> > no interaction is possible!
> 
> 
> Exactly - and therefore I fear, that all the UltraBooks will die, once the 
> relevant bytes get lost. Mine operated for some years with the "Invalid 
> NVRAM" message until I attached the battery to the NVRAM and herein 
> completely erased it because it was completely without power for some time 
> (old battery was down to 0.426V).

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