Booted the SPARCbook 3, its battery is in fact dead, and aside from taking a 
little longer to come up (totally expected) it's fine.

Thanks,
Jonathan

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On Thursday, September 28th, 2023 at 07:41, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk 
<[email protected]> wrote:


> 
> 
> Yet we have a few datapoints showing that a dead NVRAM/RTC still boot 
> UltraBooks just fine! As I said, I personally confirmed with my UltraBook 
> IIe. Pretty sure the NVRAM is dead in my SPARCbook too, I can confirm that 
> today.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Thursday, September 28th, 2023 at 05:08, erik--- via cctalk 
> [email protected] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > > Hmmm, not sure on that one actually. So it does not boot up at all?
> > 
> > Yes - exactly!
> > 
> > > In the desktop Sun workstations and e.g. the Tadpole SparcBook, a lost 
> > > NVRAM at least
> > > shows the firmware prompt on the screen (no HOSTID and no ethernet MAC).
> > 
> > Yes, that is different in the UltraBooks. There is very likely some deep 
> > hardware specific stuff in the NVRAM. In Tafpoles, SparcStations and 
> > similar (I have some of them) there is NEVER a sticker with the serial 
> > numer on the NVRAM, but in the UltraBooks there is. That is also 
> > anindication for me, that the NVRAM is paired to the hardware.
> > 
> > > situation is not as severe as with the UltraBooks where the screen 
> > > remains black/dark and
> > > no interaction is possible!
> > 
> > Exactly - and therefore I fear, that all the UltraBooks will die, once the 
> > relevant bytes get lost. Mine operated for some years with the "Invalid 
> > NVRAM" message until I attached the battery to the NVRAM and herein 
> > completely erased it because it was completely without power for some time 
> > (old battery was down to 0.426V).

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