I'm surprised some digital scope manufacturer hasn't implemented X-Y-Z control as an option.   Driving X-Y was fairly common for certain types of signals.  And many also used the Z input.

Back in the day there were many companies that made X-Y or X-Y-Z displays.

On 4/3/2024 10:01 AM, Guy Fedorkow via cctalk wrote:
Vintage computer enthusiasts might want to keep track of where to find CRT-based analog oscilloscopes, for use as output devices. The early MIT and Lincoln Labs computers used D/A converters to steer and activate the beam on analog scopes to draw vector images. Working on Whirlwind simulation, we've been able to get this technique to work with "real" oscilloscopes, e.g., Tek 475, but we have not yet found a single DSO that has X/Y _and_ Z inputs (let alone the required phosphor fade).

  Myself, I have a couple scopes with backups, so I'm not in the market for another one.  But others might consider the option...

  /guy fedorkow


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I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as far as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in either) I have to admit I favor them as a brand. Call we an oddball, weird egg, badges I wear with pride.

But who could resist the allure of the newer ultra portable, even handheld units (some with bandwidth or sampling rates to 50mhz). I'm a big cheapo. But there's no real reason to agonize over a 65 - 200$ or thereabouts acquisition. It's a bit tiring to wade through the piles of availability. I favor a desktop unit, larger screen (but not always, careful). But most of those need wall current I think? The convenience of a handheld battery powered unit obviously has it's benefits.

I will always love and dote upon my color crt based HPs. But the damned things are so heavy, so unwieldy. Judy-Jude knocked my 54111d over, hit the paved floor, shook the house. And still works! Built to withstand an atomic bombardment.




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