A machine that punches the sprocket hole can work with pre-punched tape for one 
or a few cycles, but long-term it will punch an elongated hole and drift out of 
registration.  CTI warns about it in the manual for the 173A “Tape-Ard” I have. 
 (By the way the 173A uses the same Friden engine that IBM OEMed for the 1620’s 
1624 punch.)

Some readers backspace but only as a side effect. For example the Remex stepper 
motor based machines. In high speed mode they stop one space past the target 
then backspace.

Dave Wise

> On Jun 27, 2025, at 9:34 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 5:09 PM Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks - I wasn't sure. I've actually got a few Teletype 32 and 33s in
>> my shed but I'm too scared to turn them on after 40 years to check. When
>> I was coding they were earlier Creed models (mostly). It think one was
>> an Olivetti, which had style, and an ITT branded 444 that looked like it
> 
> The Creed 444 scanned manual I have says 'ITT Creed' on it (and the
> address is given as Brighton, not Croydon). I think ITT owned Creed at
> that pont
> 
> The Creed 444 can also backspace the punch (and will use unpunched tape).
> 
> 
>> was from the 21st Century (as I imagined imagined, incorrectly, what the
>> 21st would look like at the time time). I stopped using them even as a
>> printer when the FX-80 came out :-) (Alas, I only kept the Teletype
>> Corporation ones, which I kept to scavenge parts).
>> 
>> I seem to recall backed up tape forming a loop rather than rewinding
>> onto the spool.
> 
> Yes, the main use of this facility was to immediately correct a typo
> by backspacing the tape and overpunching the incorrect character with
> all holes. You didn't need to rewind the tape if you only have 1/10"
> of it to bother about.
> 
> -tony

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