On 24/06/2025 20:16, Wayne S wrote:
On Jun 24, 2025, at 12:10, Tony Duell <ard.p850...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 8:04 PM Wayne S via cctalk
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There’s really a disconnect on between reading and punching paper tape.
For making blank tape that can be used in a punch, you can cut a roll of  
something down to a proper width, but the paper has to be thicker than cashiers 
paper. The real trick is that the paper has to be perforated in the middle 
before use. That’s how it’s “dragged” thru the punch/reader. I haven’t seen 
anyone mention how to do that.

If you can manage to do that, then you could also oil the paper and use it on a 
punch.
Every paper tape punch (Teletype, Friden, DEC, Facit, Data
Dynamics...) I have punches the sprocket holes along with the data
holes. Some need a bit of help (pull the tape by hand) to get started
on a new roll of tape, but once it starts punching properly it will
continue to do so until the roll runs out.

-tony
Interesting.
All the ones i used, including some teletypes, needed pre-punched tape, 
ostensibly to ensure proper alignment. We used to buy pallets of prepunched 
tape.

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My experience is the same as Waynes - I've never seen a punch that didn't punch the sprocket hole and I've never seen one that required one. Perhaps it's an American thing (reminder: I'm in the UK, where Paper Tape was king). This would have been everything Creed, Elliott and later Teletype (e.g. ASR33) and probably a few I can't remember. I've never even seen pre-punched tape.

I'm suspect some optical readers didn't require it as the tape was advanced using a pinch roller until a non-null punch was received.

Regards, Frank.

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