On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 at 22:03, Frank Ventura via cctalk <[email protected]> wrote: > > For what it is worth (probably not much). I have had good luck using Open > Source Legacy Patcher on some rather old Apple hardware. Fun to keep those > funky little 2013 Mac Pro “Trash Cans” running.
I can second this - I had at least Ventura running on an original 2009 MacBookAir2,1 which was... an effective way to provide a point, even if the point was that just because you can recent OS versions on a machine, doesn't mean you should (unless you like the interactive performance of a graphical UI on a VAX) I also used it to get the latest macOS & XCode on a 2012 Macmini6,2, which was just about useful as a build box for a small iOS flutter app Obviously did not need it for my "anglepoise lamp" G4 iMac, which runs NetBSD 11 Just Fine :-p (If you want "technically still supports, though not useful in any way", you should be able to boot NetBSD 11 on a Sun-2 from 1985, as long as you get started soon and don't have any plans for Christmas...) > On Oct 17, 2025, at 12:21 PM, cz via cctalk <[email protected]> wrote: > > I really need to try this. And yes, there are a billion reasons to dunk on > Windows, but the fact that the OS runs on a 19 year old laptop is still not > too bad. > My AT&T7300 can't match this, nor can any of the Apple products (well you can > hack the installer for Intel core duo stuff but it's not really supported and > Apple is seriously turning perfectly good older hardware into trash) Well... currently Apple officially supports hardware back to about 2017, and Windows 11 officially supports hardware.... back to about 2017. I think dunkage due has about parity there. If including rufus and other hacks to get Windows 11 installed on older kit are included, then so should OpenCore Legacy Patcher... and it remains about parity with respect to security updates as the Apple side will automatically install any updates for that OS version, while Windows 11 will lock you to whatever 24H3 base release you ended up installing until it stops getting security updates. Even then, I agree there are still better reasons to dunk on Windows than support for older hardware - the official Microsoft statement of "The vision that we have is: let’s rewrite the entire operating system around AI, and build essentially what becomes truly the AI PC" (direct quote) was the straw that finally nudged me to reformat my gaming PCs from Windows to Linux. (I'm more that a little salty about that as I had *finally* grown to quite like Windows 10 - not for my personal machine, but for when I needed to work on someone else's or do something that needed Windows) Anyway, take care David
