Well, it works when I run VMS 4.4 and DECnet 4.0 so I must have something
wrong with the licenses under 5.4.
I do have the VAX-VMS and DVNETRTG licenses installed under 5.4 so I was
expecting it to work. Back to the drawing board I guess.

Thank y'all for responding with suggestions.
- Peter

On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:59 PM Antonio Carlini via cctalk <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 02/12/2025 00:38, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
> > Decnet needed a license.
> > I think that probably the license manager is called as part of running
> any licensed product before you can do anything.
> > If you want to verify that it’s a licensing issue run a version of VMS
> before V5 and install Decnet. Licensing enforcement came out with version
> five so anything before that is not enforced.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2025, at 16:18, Peter Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > It doesn't specify the symbols, just states some or missing.
> >
> > But I ran netconfig.com<http://netconfig.com> and specified the name
> and decnet address and specified end-node.
> > When I run startnet I get the following (I ran this manually but got it
> from the startnet.com<http://startnet.com> script):
> >
> > NCP>set known circuit all
> > %NCP-W-OPEFAI, Operation failure
> > Circuit = SVA-0
> > %SYSTEM-F-NOLICENSE, operation requires software license
> >
> > What license is needed for circuits?
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:08 PM Wayne S <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> > What symbols? Can you show some here?
> > Maybe you have the wrong install script?
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> Firstly V5 checked the kernel considerably so anything tied deeply to it
> (like DECnet) would need a new version, the V4.x stuff wouldn't work at
> all. Although with DECnet, as has been pointed out that shipped with VMS.
>
>  From V5.0 onwards you would need a PAK (licence PAK). You need one for
> VMS too, but it at least lets you log in once or maybe twice, so that
> you can enter the required licence PAK(s).
> For DECnet you get (IIRC) nothing without a licence PAK. Same for
> clustering and volume shadowing.
>
> So you are probably missing just a licence PAK for DECnet.
>
> Before V5 most things just ran, but both VMS and DECnet had licence
> tapes that increased the number of users allowed (in the case of VMS) or
> allowed DECnet functionality (in the case of DECnet).
>
> So even with V4 you had to do something extra to get DECnet running.
>
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
> --
> Antonio Carlini
> [email protected]
>
>

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