I have a MicroVAX 3100 on its way now, and as I understand the info I have
found, VMS 4.x isn't supported on that machine?

- Peter

On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 12:38 AM Wayne S <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do you need vms 5.4 for a specific reason?
> Can you use V4 instead?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2025, at 19:50, Wayne S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  There is pakgen.c on the internet
> 🤔
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2025, at 17:26, Peter Ekstrom via cctalk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Well, it works when I run VMS 4.4 and DECnet 4.0 so I must have something
> wrong with the licenses under 5.4.
> I do have the VAX-VMS and DVNETRTG licenses installed under 5.4 so I was
> expecting it to work. Back to the drawing board I guess.
>
> Thank y'all for responding with suggestions.
> - Peter
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:59 PM Antonio Carlini via cctalk <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 02/12/2025 00:38, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>
> Decnet needed a license.
>
> I think that probably the license manager is called as part of running
>
> any licensed product before you can do anything.
>
> If you want to verify that it’s a licensing issue run a version of VMS
>
> before V5 and install Decnet. Licensing enforcement came out with version
>
> five so anything before that is not enforced.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2025, at 16:18, Peter Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> It doesn't specify the symbols, just states some or missing.
>
>
> But I ran netconfig.com<http://netconfig.com> and specified the name
>
> and decnet address and specified end-node.
>
> When I run startnet I get the following (I ran this manually but got it
>
> from the startnet.com<http://startnet.com> script):
>
>
> NCP>set known circuit all
>
> %NCP-W-OPEFAI, Operation failure
>
> Circuit = SVA-0
>
> %SYSTEM-F-NOLICENSE, operation requires software license
>
>
> What license is needed for circuits?
>
>
> - Peter
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:08 PM Wayne S <[email protected]<mailto:
>
> [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> What symbols? Can you show some here?
>
> Maybe you have the wrong install script?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> Firstly V5 checked the kernel considerably so anything tied deeply to it
>
> (like DECnet) would need a new version, the V4.x stuff wouldn't work at
>
> all. Although with DECnet, as has been pointed out that shipped with VMS.
>
>
> From V5.0 onwards you would need a PAK (licence PAK). You need one for
>
> VMS too, but it at least lets you log in once or maybe twice, so that
>
> you can enter the required licence PAK(s).
>
> For DECnet you get (IIRC) nothing without a licence PAK. Same for
>
> clustering and volume shadowing.
>
>
> So you are probably missing just a licence PAK for DECnet.
>
>
> Before V5 most things just ran, but both VMS and DECnet had licence
>
> tapes that increased the number of users allowed (in the case of VMS) or
>
> allowed DECnet functionality (in the case of DECnet).
>
>
> So even with V4 you had to do something extra to get DECnet running.
>
>
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Antonio Carlini
>
> [email protected]
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>
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