On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 6:59 PM Paul Koning <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Jan 1, 2026, at 10:56 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk <[email protected]> 
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> > On Thu, Jan 1, 2026 at 11:44 PM Nigel Williams via cctalk
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> >> Anyone know why DEC chose to use the grind-noise? it was a singularly
> >> unpleasant sound, it had the effect of not wanting to trigger it.
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> > From what I remember it's actually a little relay on the main circuit
> > board. A single pulse for the key click and a buzz for the 'bell'
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> > -tony
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> That's what the schematic shows, or more precisely it shows a relay coil, I 
> can't find the actual part description.

I checked the printset after posting. The 'buzz' is generated by
pulsing the coil from the firmware, it doesn't use the normally-closed
relay contact to make a buzzer.


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> Curiously enough, the earlier VT05 does have a proper beeper, with an 800 Hz 
> oscillator feeding a speaker.

I looked in that printset too. A real speaker.

Years ago I could have rescued a VT05. Alas the car was full
(PDP11/44, PDP8/e, Acorn System 4, Northstar, Sun 3/260, manuals, etc)
and I never went back for it. Been kicking myself ever since.

> And the VT61/t, which is a block editing terminal for Typeset-11 in a VT52 
> case, also has a speaker for the key click (and I assume for the bell/beep 
> though I didn't look that far).  Then again, it's not clear whether the 
> VT61/t has anything in common with the VT52 other than its case and perhaps 
> the CRT and some of the power supplies.  I remember a collection of rather 
> hairy looking circuit boards, the final last gasp of single-sided PCB 
> technology with hundreds of jumper wires on the component side...

I think the VT52 is a pair of single-sided boards with lots and lots
of wire jumpers. I've never actually seen inside one, I have a VT55
with AFAIK is a VT52 with the line/histogram board added. That is a
double-sided (at least) PCB.

-tony

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