Hello Steven! Em Mon, 17 Nov 2014 23:54:43 -0800 Steven Edwards <winehac...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> I couldn't find any information on if anyone else is working on > either of these but I've started hacking on it in my local tree and > am making pretty good progress. I sent a message a few days ago to this very mailing list expressing my desire of migrating CDE's build system to GNU Autotools[0]. Unfortunately, CDE developers don't seem very receptive to this idea. I'm not the first one looking for this, however. Oleksiy has contributed a significant amount of code for this end long before I came to the scene[1]. His lengthy patch and the discussion around it was just plainly ignored to the death of his helpful initiative. On Sourceforge there are 8 forks of CDE's VCS code, but none of them implements Oleksiy changes, or any other in the direction of GNU Autotools. Even if a patch for this end was accepted by the main developers, they would still require Imake build system to be working in parallel (imagine the mess), dragging the development of a efficient, stable and standard build system. Furthermore, they require any contribution to be under a permissive license, and I don't feel comfortable with that, because to me copyleft is an achievement we should not give up without a very compelling reason, for the benefit of user's freedom. Therefore, I'm afraid there is no other reasonable way of getting the build system migrated seamlessly if not by a fork. I'm very interested in this and I'm considering the possibility of making a fork of CDE for the GNU project, so it can be one of the official desktops of the GNU's project distribution of the GNU system[3] that, coincidently, had a release today. I'm thinking about naming it "GDE", which stands for "GNU Desktop Environment". The first step is to migrate CDE's code to GNU Savannah[4]. Then we can say good bye to the bloated and awful Sourceforge web interface and its commercial appeal[5]. CDE's original project could still fill the niche of supporting ancient proprietary unices, with its ancient build system and worries about retro-compatibility for an undefined amount of time, eventually and deliberately letting some self-interested people or corporation take away CDE's users freedom; the freedom that take so much time and efforts to achieve! We just doesn't have to follow that path! We can do better: the GNU way! :-) What do you think? Don't you want to contribute to this effort even further? Footnotes: [0] http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/33045815/ [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/30437899/ [3] http://www.gnu.org/software/guix [4] http://savannah.gnu.org/ [5] If you have received this mail through the mailing list look at its footer: comercial advertising! How can developers tolerate this behavior in every corner of their development facilities? -- ,= ,-_-. =. Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) [0x28D618AF] ((_/)o o(\_)) There is no system but GNU; `-'(. .)`-' GNU Linux-Libre is one of its official kernels; \_/ All software must be free as in freedom; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ cdesktopenv-devel mailing list cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel