Hello Steven!

Em Mon, 17 Nov 2014 23:54:43 -0800
Steven Edwards <winehac...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> I couldn't find any information on if anyone else is working on
> either of these but I've started hacking on it in my local tree and
> am making pretty good progress.

I sent a message a few days ago to this very mailing list
expressing my desire of migrating CDE's build system to GNU
Autotools[0].  Unfortunately, CDE developers don't seem very receptive
to this idea.

I'm not the first one looking for this, however.  Oleksiy has
contributed a significant amount of code for this end long before I
came to the scene[1].  His lengthy patch and the discussion around it
was just plainly ignored to the death of his helpful initiative.  

On Sourceforge there are 8 forks of CDE's VCS code, but none of them
implements Oleksiy changes, or any other in the direction of GNU
Autotools.  Even if a patch for this end was accepted by the main
developers, they would still require Imake build system to be working
in parallel (imagine the mess), dragging the development of a efficient,
stable and standard build system.  Furthermore, they require any
contribution to be under a permissive license, and I don't feel
comfortable with that, because to me copyleft is an achievement we
should not give up without a very compelling reason, for the benefit of
user's freedom.  Therefore, I'm afraid there is no other reasonable way
of getting the build system migrated seamlessly if not by a fork. 

I'm very interested in this and I'm considering the possibility of
making a fork of CDE for the GNU project, so it can be one of the
official desktops of the GNU's project distribution of the GNU
system[3] that, coincidently, had a release today.  I'm thinking about
naming it "GDE", which stands for "GNU Desktop Environment".

The first step is to migrate CDE's code to GNU Savannah[4].  Then we
can say good bye to the bloated and awful Sourceforge web interface and
its commercial appeal[5].

CDE's original project could still fill the niche of supporting ancient
proprietary unices, with its ancient build system and worries about
retro-compatibility for an undefined amount of time, eventually and
deliberately letting some self-interested people or corporation take
away CDE's users freedom; the freedom that take so much time and
efforts to achieve!

We just doesn't have to follow that path!  We can do better: the GNU
way! :-)

What do you think?  Don't you want to contribute to this effort even
further?


Footnotes:
[0] http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/33045815/
[1] http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/30437899/ 
[3] http://www.gnu.org/software/guix
[4] http://savannah.gnu.org/
[5] If you have received this mail through the mailing list look at its
footer: comercial advertising!  How can developers tolerate this
behavior in every corner of their development facilities?

-- 
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((_/)o o(\_)) There is no system but GNU;
 `-'(. .)`-'  GNU Linux-Libre is one of its official kernels;
     \_/      All software must be free as in freedom;

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