On Saturday, November 22, 2014 01:53:01 PM Edmond Orignac wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 07:39:09PM -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
> >> Em Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:05:53 -0700 (MST)
> >> 
> >> Jon Trulson<j...@radscan.com>  escreveu:
> >>> Now CDE is an open source project, but we would *really* like to avoid
> >>> being forced into a specific license if at all possible - this is why
> >>> we request MIT licensing.
> >> 
> >> Here we have a problem.  In the GNU project we are mainly concerned
> >> with user's freedom.
> 
> As opposed to programmer's freedom. You seem to have appointed yourself
> as Caudillo of the CDE project and you seem to be lecturing reluctant
> subordinates about the greatness of your vision.
> 
> I believed the GNOME project (contrarily to KDE) fitted perfectly the
> aims of the GNU organization by being based on the non-proprietary
> toolkit GTK. Moreover, in order to improve the performance of GNOME,
> the X Window System is being abandoned on Linux in favor of Wayland,
> while at the same time GNOME is getting tightly integrated in the new
> systemd replacement for System V init. These changes are going to make
> CDE and Motif obsolete on the mainstream Linuxes in the coming years.
> So why this urge to seize
> control of a project by a small team of programmers that is likely
> to be useful only for marginal Unix type operating systems: legacy
> Unices, the BSDs, OpenIndiana, CRUX/Slackware Linux ?

This is just one user's opinion (I've made a few small contributions, but 
nothing serious so I wouldn't count myself as anything more than an interested 
user) but...

I use CDE because it's not trying to be anything other than a legacy desktop 
updated to work on modern platforms.  I don't really care much about how 
modern it is or whether it serves the needs of a philosophically-driven Linux 
distro.  If I wanted that, I'd use GNOME.  I also don't care if it follows the 
One True Path of GNU, as I'm not a disciple of that particular faith.

I do, however, care if it starts sprouting dependencies on GNU software that I 
don't use.  I do care if it becomes another vehicle to promote the (L)GPL to 
the exclusion of other licenses. I do care if it starts depending on parts of 
the Linux stack or assumes that one is a Linux user.  I don't think that last 
one is necessarily a concern in what's being proposed, but given the 
motivation the thought is at least in the back of my mind.

Not every project that uses a non-GNU license is a battle that needs to be won 
for your cause.  Sometimes folks just use different licenses.  Live and let 
live.

-Rob
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