"It's still maintained, but it's down at the moment." I've heard that too often with FOSS lusers over the years, There has to be a way of making CDE work without relying on a shell that's been outdated since AIX 5. It might take a bit of work, but I'll start working on it. Heck, even tcsh would be a better choice,
On 29 November 2015 at 16:56, < cdesktopenv-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Send cdesktopenv-devel mailing list submissions to > cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cdesktopenv-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cdesktopenv-devel-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cdesktopenv-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Getting away from ksh (Jon Trulson) > 2. Re: Getting away from ksh (Pouar) > 3. Re: Getting away from ksh (Pouar) > 4. Re: Getting away from ksh (Isaac Dunham) > 5. Re: Getting away from ksh (Marcin Cieslak) > 6. cursors and LTSP5 (Antonis Tsolomitis) > 7. Re: cursors and LTSP5 (Marcin Cieslak) > 8. Re: cursors and LTSP5 (Christopher Turkel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:34:18 -0700 (MST) > From: Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Getting away from ksh > To: Danilo Sch?neberg <danilo.schoeneb...@googlemail.com> > Cc: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1511271828390.24314@m5> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2015, Danilo Sch?neberg wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > [...] > > Also, the reliance on LibXP/printproto breaks a lot of pkgsrc packages > > under NetBSD/IllumoS > > > > This shouldn't be an issue any more... If the installed Motif does not > support printing, then the 'PRINTING_SUPPORTED' (in Xm.h) macro will not > be defined, and in that case, code depending on it within CDE will not > be compiled. > > So unless you REALLY NEED XPrint support, you should not need to build > libXp, or rebuild Motif with printing enabled. Building CDE should > Just Work?. If it doesn't, let us know. > > > -- > Jon Trulson > > "If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall > like a house of cards... Checkmate." > -- Zapp Brannigan > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 21:06:05 -0600 > From: Pouar <thepo...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Getting away from ksh > To: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <56591a1d.3020...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Right now the download link on http://kornshell.com/software/ for > ast-ksh points to nowhere and I'm not sure where to get the latest > version so I'm relying on whatever individual tarballs Google takes me > to rather than official sources. Anyone have any idea if ksh is still > maintained? The latest beta I can find was from 2014-12-24 > > -- > Pouar > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 21:14:50 -0600 > From: Pouar <thepo...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Getting away from ksh > To: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <56591c29.6010...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On 11/27/15 21:06, Pouar wrote: > > Right now the download link on http://kornshell.com/software/ for > > ast-ksh points to nowhere and I'm not sure where to get the latest > > version so I'm relying on whatever individual tarballs Google takes me > > to rather than official sources. Anyone have any idea if ksh is still > > maintained? The latest beta I can find was from 2014-12-24 > > > > -- > > Pouar > > I hope it's still maintained as it's still one of the best shells in > existence > -- > Pouar > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:47:39 -0800 > From: Isaac Dunham <ibid...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Getting away from ksh > To: Pouar <thepo...@gmail.com> > Cc: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <20151128034738.GA2646@newbook> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 09:14:50PM -0600, Pouar wrote: > > On 11/27/15 21:06, Pouar wrote: > > > Right now the download link on http://kornshell.com/software/ for > > > ast-ksh points to nowhere and I'm not sure where to get the latest > > > version so I'm relying on whatever individual tarballs Google takes me > > > to rather than official sources. Anyone have any idea if ksh is still > > > maintained? The latest beta I can find was from 2014-12-24 > > > > I hope it's still maintained as it's still one of the best shells in > > existence > > It's still maintained. > > The AT&T Research page is the real homepage, as far as development goes. > (www2.research.att.com/~astopen/download) > The package is ast-ksh. > > However, it's down for me at the moment; probably temporary. > > HTH, > Isaac Dunham > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:17:46 +0000 > From: Marcin Cieslak <sa...@saper.info> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Getting away from ksh > To: Isaac Dunham <ibid...@gmail.com> > Cc: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Pouar > <thepo...@gmail.com> > Message-ID: <alpine.bsf.2.11.1511281316060.20...@z.fncre.vasb> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 09:14:50PM -0600, Pouar wrote: > > > On 11/27/15 21:06, Pouar wrote: > > > > Right now the download link on http://kornshell.com/software/ for > > > > ast-ksh points to nowhere and I'm not sure where to get the latest > > > > version so I'm relying on whatever individual tarballs Google takes > me > > > > to rather than official sources. Anyone have any idea if ksh is still > > > > maintained? The latest beta I can find was from 2014-12-24 > > > > > > I hope it's still maintained as it's still one of the best shells in > > > existence > > > > It's still maintained. > > > > The AT&T Research page is the real homepage, as far as development goes. > > (www2.research.att.com/~astopen/download) > > The package is ast-ksh. > > > > However, it's down for me at the moment; probably temporary. > > I am using ksh93 a lot; the newest version has a bug with filename > completion (short names aren't completed properly, only the longer ones). > > I've heard there is a fix in git repo, but git is down as well :( > > But as ksh in CDE is meant for scripts, completion bug should not be > a problem. > > Marcin > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:25:34 +0200 > From: Antonis Tsolomitis <antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com> > Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] cursors and LTSP5 > To: CDE development <cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <565b18ee.8050...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > Hello. As I had reported here: > > http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/cdesktopenv-devel/thread/557e7560.6090...@gmail.com/ > > CDE is fully functional on Ubuntu 12.04LTS with LTSP5 on terminals with > only one small problem: > The cursor stays busy when the mouse is on the background. (Check the > screenshot on the above link). > > We have a new lab in our University with LTSP5 and Ubuntu14.04LTS. > Things are the same. > CDE is fully functional but the busy cursor drives me crazy... > > I have read some documentation about cursors and a suggestion is to link > the "watch" cursor of the > default theme (DMZ-White) to the "left_ptr" cursor, not solving but > bypassing the problem. I will try this, although > this will break the cursor theme for other desktops (unless it can be > done in user space). > > But my question here is how come CDE does not provide it's own cursors? > For example, CDE apps > use the CDE hourglass for the busy cursor. Is there a "CDE cursor theme" > hidden somewhere? Maybe I should > try to bring this back instead of dealing with DMZ-White. > > Antonis. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:53:21 +0000 > From: Marcin Cieslak <sa...@saper.info> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] cursors and LTSP5 > To: Antonis Tsolomitis <antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com> > Cc: CDE development <cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <alpine.bsf.2.11.1511291550350.20...@z.fncre.vasb> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2015, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > > But my question here is how come CDE does not provide it's own cursors? > > For example, CDE apps > > use the CDE hourglass for the busy cursor. Is there a "CDE cursor theme" > > hidden somewhere? Maybe I should > > try to bring this back instead of dealing with DMZ-White. > > I think CDE uses Motif cursors, with its well-known hourglass icon? > > Is mwm having the same issue? > > Saper > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:56:31 -0500 > From: Christopher Turkel <turkel.christop...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] cursors and LTSP5 > Cc: CDE development <cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > <CACG5w+ZxH8UP77c1trGF4+Ozouh9mnA0dsrB6qc_MKSRQ= > g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Marcin Cieslak <sa...@saper.info> wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2015, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: > > > > > But my question here is how come CDE does not provide it's own cursors? > > > For example, CDE apps > > > use the CDE hourglass for the busy cursor. Is there a "CDE cursor > theme" > > > hidden somewhere? Maybe I should > > > try to bring this back instead of dealing with DMZ-White. > > > > I think CDE uses Motif cursors, with its well-known hourglass icon? > > > > Is mwm having the same issue? > > > > Saper > > > > I think you only get the CDE cursor if you lunch from dtlogin. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > cdesktopenv-devel mailing list > cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel > > > End of cdesktopenv-devel Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > ************************************************ >
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