I'm running the last Archlinux.
The wiki is out of datem but I don't know how much since I can't get it
running. The AUR has the file list you should use.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cdesktopenv/
You'll also need libtirpc, of course. The rpcbind file is now in:
etc/conf.d/rpcbind
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:03 PM Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote:
> On 06/24/2018 06:00 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> > I can't program at all. Looks like someone smarter than I will have to
> > tackle this :-)
> >
>
> I am sad :(
>
> Ok, what version of Arch are you running?
>
> I did notice a lot of errors regarding fonts, so I wonder if part of the
> problem is that you do not have the right fonts and/or locales installed.
>
> I might be able to grab a vagrant Arch box this week and try it. Are
> the wiki instructions accurate for what needs to be installed and
> configured first before building CDE?
>
> -jon
> > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/24/2018 05:21 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> > > I have attacked the relevant error logs
> > >
> >
> > Well, no need to be hostile toward them. :)
> >
> > I don't know what the issue is - it does not appear related to the
> > hostname. How are you at CDE/X11 programming? Could you debug it?
> > -jon
> >
> > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:04 PM Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > :(
> > >
> > > So, something else is going on here... You have the correct
> > localhost
> > > patch (you have tried this without the modification to
> /etc/hosts
> > > right?)
> > >
> > > rpcbind is running, and ttsession is registering
> > successfully. So,
> > > anything of interest in:
> > >
> > > ~/.dt/errorlog
> > >
> > > ~/.dt/sessionlogs/*/*
> > >
> > > Note, for the session logs you need to edit ~/.dtprofile and
> > comment
> > > out
> > > the line:
> > >
> > > export dtstart_sessionlogfile="/dev/null"
> > >
> > > ... or they won't be created.
> > >
> > > -jon
> > >
> > > On 06/24/2018 04:57 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> > > > rpcinfo -p
> > > > program vers proto port service
> > > > 100000 4 tcp 111 portmapper
> > > > 100000 3 tcp 111 portmapper
> > > > 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper
> > > > 100000 4 udp 111 portmapper
> > > > 100000 3 udp 111 portmapper
> > > > 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper
> > > > 1342177279 4 tcp 53495
> > > > 1342177279 1 tcp 53495
> > > > 1342177280 4 tcp 36559
> > > > 1342177280 1 tcp 36559
> > > > 1342177281 4 tcp 46257
> > > > 1342177281 1 tcp 46257
> > > > 1342177282 4 tcp 53197
> > > > 1342177282 1 tcp 53197
> > > > 1342177283 4 tcp 49741
> > > > 1342177283 1 tcp 49741
> > > >
> > > > And git show 8c1ad2d3
> > > >
> > > > commit 8c1ad2d3a8ec095e86da02dbea3adec228c48820
> > > > Author: Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com> <mailto:j...@radscan.com
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
> > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>>
> > > > Date: Wed Jun 20 16:59:34 2018 -0600
> > > >
> > > > libtt: if local hostname lookup fails, default to
> > localhost
> > > >
> > > > A recurring problem, mainly on the BSD's, and also on
> > some Linux
> > > > installations, is a failure for ttsession to start
> > and any
> > > clients
> > > > trying to attach to it failing due to having a
> > hostname that
> > > is not
> > > > associated with an IP address.
> > > >
> > > > This is due to code which looks up the hostname, and
> > if it
> > > does not
> > > > have a valid host record, then TT just fails.
> > > >
> > > > This has required those users to add an alias for
> > their host
> > > name in
> > > > their /etc/hosts file.
> > > >
> > > > With this commit, this should no longer be
> > necessary. Now, if
> > > > _XGethostbyname() fails when looking up the local
> name, a
> > > default of
> > > > "localhost" is used, which should always exist.
> > > >
> > > > This was run tested on Linux and FreeBSD 11.1. It was
> > > compile tested
> > > > on OpenBSD 6.2.
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/cde/lib/tt/lib/util/tt_host.C
> > > b/cde/lib/tt/lib/util/tt_host.C
> > > > index f73fd4ba..d608b57e 100644
> > > > --- a/cde/lib/tt/lib/util/tt_host.C
> > > > +++ b/cde/lib/tt/lib/util/tt_host.C
> > > > @@ -207,7 +207,38 @@ init_byname(_Tt_string name)
> > > >
> > > > memset((char*) &host_buf, 0,
> > sizeof(_Xgethostbynameparams));
> > > > if (name.len() == 0) {
> > > > - _name = _tt_gethostname();
> > > > There is a ,lot more, but I can't get it all -)
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:38 PM Jon Trulson
> > <j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
> > > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, so:
> > > >
> > > > 1) What does "rpcinfo -p" show you?
> > > >
> > > > 2) what does "git show 8c1ad2d3"
> > > >
> > > > -jon
> > > >
> > > > On 06/24/2018 04:35 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote:
> > > > > No, I'm saying despite rpcbind running and
> > /etc/hosts set
> > > > properly I am
> > > > > still getting the same error, ie " "Could not
> > connect to
> > > ToolTalk..."
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:01 PM Jon Trulson
> > > <j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
> > > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>
> > > > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
> > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 06/24/2018 03:56 PM, Christopher Turkel
> wrote:
> > > > > > Rpcbind is running, and there a hostname,
> > but the
> > > same issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you are saying that if you add your hostname
> > > (uname -n)
> > > > to the list
> > > > > of names for your localhost (127.0.0.1) in
> > /etc/hosts,
> > > everything
> > > > > starts
> > > > > up properly?
> > > > > -jon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:16 PM Jon Trulson
> > > > <j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
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> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>
> > > > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com> <mailto:j...@radscan.com
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
> > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>>
> > > > > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com
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> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
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> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>
> > > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>
> > <mailto:j...@radscan.com <mailto:j...@radscan.com>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 06/22/2018 07:10 PM, Henry Bonath
> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think that's either rpcbind isn't
> > running, or
> > > > maybe the
> > > > > /etc/hosts
> > > > > > > file not having the hostname in there?
> > > > > > > I just loaded up a raspbian lite
> > image and
> > > loaded a
> > > > > barebones CDE
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > > and I definitely got that error, and
> am
> > > pretty sure
> > > > it was
> > > > > one of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > two that was the issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Definitely make sure rpcbind is running,
> > ttsession
> > > > exists, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, as of current master (8c1ad2d), you
> > should not
> > > > have to
> > > > > add your
> > > > > > hostname to /etc/hosts anymore. If you
> find
> > > that you
> > > > do, I'd
> > > > > love to
> > > > > > hear about it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -jon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:06 PM,
> > Christopher
> > > Turkel
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have gotten past the dthello
> > hang in
> > > Archlinux.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now I get this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Could not connect to ToolTalk
> > message
> > > server:
> > > > > TT_ERR_NOMP No
> > > > > > > ttsession process is running,
> > probably
> > > because
> > > > > tt_open() has not
> > > > > > > been called yet. If this code is
> > > returned from
> > > > > tt_open() it means
> > > > > > > ttsession could not be started,
> which
> > > generally
> > > > means
> > > > > ToolTalk is
> > > > > > > not installed on this
> system.Exiting
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know there is a solution for
> > this. I
> > > just forget
> > > > > what it is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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