Aha. Well the first problem is that I'm an idiot. It's worse because I just was 
working on the PKGBUILD, so I'm not sure how I forgot that I have to override a 
bunch of stuff including cpp. I have corrected this oversight 
(https://builds.sr.ht/api/jobs/113221/manifest) and that gets... a smaller 
number of errors. Build at https://builds.sr.ht/~yjftsjthsd/job/113221 if you'd 
like to review.

Unfortunately, it's not that easy. Or I'm missing something further. I 
*believe* the important error is still this?

```
make[4]: Entering directory '/home/build/code/cde/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/help'
+ mkdir -p ../help-sdl
LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 SGML_SEARCH_PATH=".:.." 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib:/usr/dt/lib:/usr/lib 
DTLCXSEARCHPATH=../../../lib/DtHelp /bin/mksh 
../../../programs/dtdocbook/doc2sdl/dtdocbook -t 
../../../programs/dtdocbook/doc2sdl -H 
../../../programs/dthelp/parser/pass2/htag2/dthelp_htag2 -I 
../../../programs/dtdocbook/instant/instant -L 
../../../programs/dtdocbook/xlate_locale/xlate_locale -S 
../../../programs/nsgmls/nsgmls  -o ../help-sdl/Appmanager.sdl 
Appmanager/book.sgm
dtdocbook fatal error:
    Error processing book.out.sdl by 
../../../programs/dthelp/parser/pass2/htag2/dthelp_htag2
make[4]: *** [Makefile:749: ../help-sdl/Appmanager.sdl] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/build/code/cde/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/help'
```

Or am I just fixating on the wrong thing again?


On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jon Trulson wrote:
> Sorry, I posted this late last night... But on further inspection, I'd
> say your CPP problem is the main issue.
> 
> If that's missing, then it would definitely explain the ksh issue, and a
> whole bunch of other errors you are likely to run into.
> 
> Still, you may also need the UTF-8 versions of the locales as well.
> 
> -jon
> 
> On 11/23/19 12:45 AM, Jon Trulson wrote:
> > On 11/22/19 10:04 PM, Brian Cole wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was working on building CDE on Arch Linux (by way of making 
> >> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cdesktopenv-git/ ), and it seems that I 
> >> can get it to build if I `git checkout 2.3.1`, but anything since 
> >> ba68ff0a179ca82194783b75ae0807c4065ce28a (inclusive) fails. I've run demo 
> >> builds in sourcehut to try and isolate the issue and make it easy to 
> >> demonstrate.
> >>
> >> The first failure case appears to look like this 
> >> (https://builds.sr.ht/~yjftsjthsd/job/111697):
> >>
> >> make[4]: Entering directory '/home/build/code/cde/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/help'
> >> + mkdir -p ../help-sdl
> >> LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 SGML_SEARCH_PATH=".:.." 
> >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib:/usr/dt/lib:/usr/lib 
> >> DTLCXSEARCHPATH=../../../lib/DtHelp /bin/ksh 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/doc2sdl/dtdocbook -t 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/doc2sdl -H 
> >> ../../../programs/dthelp/parser/pass2/htag2/dthelp_htag2 -I 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/instant/instant -L 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/xlate_locale/xlate_locale -S 
> >> ../../../programs/nsgmls/nsgmls  -o ../help-sdl/Appmanager.sdl 
> >> Appmanager/book.sgm
> >> /bin/sh: /bin/ksh: No such file or directory
> >> make[4]: *** [Makefile:749: ../help-sdl/Appmanager.sdl] Error 127
> >> make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/build/code/cde/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/help'
> >>
> >> My first thought was that it was failing because "/bin/ksh" isn't there; I 
> >> think this is a regression regardless, because Arch was doing this:
> >>
> >> cat >> config/cf/site.def <<EOF
> >> #define KornShell /bin/mksh
> >> ---snip---
> >> q
> >> to force the substitution of mksh. Unfortunately, even if I accept that 
> >> literally ksh is a hard requirement, I still can't build successfully.
> >> I've attempted (https://builds.sr.ht/~yjftsjthsd/job/111717) to just run 
> >> the same build with ksh pulled in from the AUR, and that gets *further*, 
> >> but errors out all the same:
> >>
> >>
> >> make[4]: Entering directory '/home/build/code/cde/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/help'
> >> + mkdir -p ../help-sdl
> >> LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 SGML_SEARCH_PATH=".:.." 
> >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../../exports/lib:/usr/dt/lib:/usr/lib 
> >> DTLCXSEARCHPATH=../../../lib/DtHelp /bin/ksh 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/doc2sdl/dtdocbook -t 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/doc2sdl -H 
> >> ../../../programs/dthelp/parser/pass2/htag2/dthelp_htag2 -I 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/instant/instant -L 
> >> ../../../programs/dtdocbook/xlate_locale/xlate_locale -S 
> >> ../../../programs/nsgmls/nsgmls  -o ../help-sdl/Appmanager.sdl 
> >> Appmanager/book.sgm
> >> dtdocbook fatal error:
> >>     Error processing book.out.sdl by 
> >> ../../../programs/dthelp/parser/pass2/htag2/dthelp_htag2
> >> make[4]: *** [Makefile:749: ../help-sdl/Appmanager.sdl] Error 1
> >> make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/build/code/cde/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/help'
> >>
> >>
> >> So a few concrete questions:
> >> - Did build dependencies change with the utf8 merge?
> >> - Does master currently build for anyone else? If so, what OS are you 
> >> using and are you just using the build steps described on the wiki?
> >> - Am I just doing something wrong? My build process is 
> >> https://builds.sr.ht/api/jobs/111717/manifest (failing) and 
> >> https://builds.sr.ht/api/jobs/111640/manifest (working 2.3.1).
> >>
> > 
> > I notice that it can't seem to find /lib/cpp either...
> > 
> > The only 'new' requirement I can think of is the need to install the
> > UTF-8 versions of the de, fr, it, and es locales.  The ISO8859-1 locales
> > are still needed for the doc and help system, but everything else
> > requires the correct UTF-8 locales as well now - I wonder if that is at
> > least one of the issues.
> > 
> > The gencat errors regarding invalid characters - this smells a lot like
> > the UTF-8 versions of those locales is missing.
> > 
> > WRT to ksh and cpp though, nothing has changed that I am aware of.
> > 
> > I've built this on ubuntu 18.04LTS, FreeBSD 11.1 Release, OpenBSD 6.2
> > and OpenBSD 6.5.
> > 
> > I have not tried arch in awhile - it's quite the moving target.  But if
> > 2.3.1 builds fine, all I can think of right now would be to make sure
> > you install the UTF-8 version of those locales.
> > 
> > ...and figure out what's up with ksh and cpp.  cpp is quite important to
> > many aspects of building CDE.  I am not aware of any changes there though.
> > 
> > You could also git bisect it starting at 2.3.1 to HEAD and find out
> > when/where something broke...
> > 
> > -jon
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Jon Trulson
> 
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>                            -- Sheldon
> 
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