Hi John,

Thank you very much for your fast and very helpful response. Just to be
sure: I have to imagine the electron pair between the "@" and the "]",
right? So it is always the first "substituent" after the central atom.
Thank you for the link and the comment to our code!

Best regards,
Lina


On 11/24/2015 10:45 AM, John M wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not entirely sure what the question was but - 
> 
> The lone-pair is treated like an implicit hydrogen and is placed where
> the central atom is. In the internal representation this means one of
> the neighbours will also be the central atom.
> 
> For example in (your email client might cut the tail off with this
> inline image):
> Inline images 1
> 
> We have
>     central atom: 7
>     neighbours: {6, 7, 8, 9 } // note 7 appears in the neighbour list
>     winding: clockwise
> 
> The winding is looking from 6 towards {7,8,9}.
> 
> Try these in http://cdkdepict-openchem.rhcloud.com/depict.html:
> 
>     Cc1cnc(C[S@@](=O)c2[nH]c3ccc(cc3n2)OC)c(C)c1OC
>     Cc1cnc(C[S@](=O)c2[nH]c3ccc(cc3n2)OC)c(C)c1OC
> 
>     Cc1cnc(C[C@@H](O)c2[nH]c3ccc(cc3n2)OC)c(C)c1OC
>     Cc1cnc(C[C@H](O)c2[nH]c3ccc(cc3n2)OC)c(C)c1OC 
> 
> 
> PS, you don't need this for your code if you ditch the CDK aromaticity:
> 
>             // prepare atom types
>             try {
>                
>     AtomContainerManipulator.percieveAtomTypesAndConfigureAtoms(mol);
>             } catch (CDKException e) {
>             e.printStackTrace();
>             }
>             
>             // add implicit hydrogens
>             try {
>                
>     CDKHydrogenAdder.getInstance(mol.getBuilder()).addImplicitHydrogens(mol);
>             } catch (CDKException e) {
>             e.printStackTrace();
>             } 
> 
> 
> Then you can use this - 
> 
>     new Aromaticity(ElectronDonation.daylight(), Cycles.or(Cycles.all(),
>     Cycles.edgeShort()));
> 
> 
> Regards,
> John W May
> john.wilkinson...@gmail.com <mailto:john.wilkinson...@gmail.com>
> 
> On 24 November 2015 at 08:34, Lina Humbeck <lina.humb...@tu-dortmund.de
> <mailto:lina.humb...@tu-dortmund.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
> 
>     we used the attached java code utilizing CDK 1.5. to create a canonical
>     chiral smiles from the input which was the attached Esomeprazol.sdf. The
>     result is:
>     Cc1cnc(C[S@@](=O)c2[nH]c3ccc(cc3n2)OC)c(C)c1OC
>     To determine an explicit chirality from the smiles you need the four
>     different substituents of the sulfur atom. Therefore, we miss the
>     explicit representation of the free electron pair of sulfur. I have no
>     representation of electron pairs in smiles in mind. Is there a rule
>     where the free electron pair implicitly is placed? Such as for example:
>     The free electron pair is always implicitly placed as first or last
>     substituent of the chiral atom?
> 
>     Best regards,
> 
>     Lina
> 
> 
>     --
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>     Lina Humbeck
> 
>     TU Dortmund University
>     Faculty of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
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>     D-44227 Dortmund
> 
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