On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:45:52 David Convengo wrote:
> So if I don't use OpenOffice.org in the listing or on the CD (and I provide
> a copy of the source) I can sell it without your permission? Can I call it
> then any name I want (that is not a trademark)? For example, "Closed
> Office"?

In essence, the answer is "yes" to all of the above. However, to be perfectly 
correct and legal, you'd need to completely re-brand the software, which 
would require you to build it yourself, and do that using various patches etc 
to replace every occurrence of the phrase "OpenOffice.org". Not a trivial 
task, to use an understatement. :)
>
> Alternatively, it may be better to just get a permission and use your
> trademark and logo but what does it entail?

See below....
>
> The link you provided says:
>
> "If you wish to sell CDROMs of OpenOffice.org, we ask that you contact us;
> if you wish to use our graphics or any text found on www.openoffice.org,
> you must obtain our permission. Upon being contacted, we will review your
> site and, if it passes review, add you to our list of CDROM distributors
> (http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/<http://distribution.openoffice.o
>rg/cdrom/>). Being so added will help your marketing. You will also be free
> then to list your site with EBay."
>
> So my questions are:
>
>    1. Regarding "contact us": where do I send my request email? Is it a
>    specific person's email address? or is just a public posting on this
> mailing list?

To obtain permission to use the logo and other material, the address to write 
to is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

For adding to the listing, write to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. BTW, a signed 
email from that address (currently me :) ) should be sufficient to satisfy 
eBay that you do have permission to sell OO.o. Just depends on who at eBay is 
handling things.

>    2. What if I don't have a site? How can it pass a review if I don't have
>    a site?

Since you are contemplating selling on eBay, the thing that would be looked at 
is the wording and overall appearance of the auction page you use. Most eBay 
sellers use only one or two page layouts for their auctions, so the simplest 
thing would be to prepare an eBay listing, and then submit the link(s) along 
with your request to use the logos. So long as you don't modify the logo, or 
make exaggerated claims about OO.o (things like 100% compatibility with MSO, 
when in fact it's probably only 99% compatible :) ), there should be no 
problem.
>    3. If I build a site, what is your criteria for passing review? In other
>    words, what should I be putting there so that you give me your
> permission?

As far as a personal/corporate website goes, we prefer a link which takes the 
user directly to a page where they can read about your offering, and where 
details of how to order the CD are clearly listed. The user should not have 
to search or click on more than one or two links to arrive at the order form.
>
>
> Thanks,
> David Convengo
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Andy Shiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Further to earlier e-mail, below is clarification from OO.org's Lead of
> > Distribution(John McCreesh).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Our notes for people wanting to sell on eBay are here:
> > http://distribution.openoffice.org/ebay_page.html
> >
> > David is right: the LGPL allows people to distribute the software as
> > long as they provide a copy of the source. However, what they cannot do
> > is use the registered trade mark OpenOffice.org without our permission.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> >
> >
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Alex Fisher

Co-Lead, CD-ROM Project

OpenOffice.org Marketing 
Community Contact
Australia/New Zealand


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