On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Tim Bird <tim.b...@am.sony.com> wrote: > On 09/28/2012 09:29 AM, Robert Schwebel wrote: >> Hi Tim, >> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 09:12:35AM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: >>> For example, elinux.org has some great areas dedicated to BeagleBoard >>> and Raspberry Pi, and the section on boot time has lots of good >>> material. But the content in some other areas is outdated or otherwise >>> lacking. >> >> I wouldn't worry too much, elinux.org is still a great site! Just >> organize a few sprints with nice giveaways at ELC-E from time to time :) >
Some should coordinate or encourage a kind of adoption party for embedded linux subject matter on elinux.org. As much as I'd like to research and rewrite all of the sections myself, I think the task may be to large for one person. I'd happily herd as many willing participants though in order to improve specific sections of the wiki. > I guess I should make sure we get some nice giveaways at ELCE coming > up. :-) We weren't sure if we were going to run a contest, but > maybe it would make sense (if I can get some prize donors), especially > since I'll be announcing a new project that allows micro-contributions. > Micro-contributions? >> Last year after ELC-E after a mini-crossbuild-summit, we asked if it was >> possible to get planet.elinux.org as an RSS aggregator site, similar to >> planet.linaro.org, planetkde.org etc. I still think the idea is great, >> as it would give us a central place to look at if you want to know what >> the embedded Linux community is doing. >> >> What do you think? Would that be possible, technically? > I think it would be a good thing to try out... > > We discussed this, and I think Bill Traynor (the elinux admin) > outlined a plan - but we didn't end up doing it for some reason. > Maybe Bill can tell us the status, and whether we could move > forward with it. I have setup the software with OSUOSL at http://planet.elinux.org but got sidetracked and didn't finish setting up the look and feel. I'll try to get to that asap and then set up the link within the left nav on the wiki. I'll announce it as well on this mailing list and others. > >>> Among the best things we have, I believe, is our conferences, (ELC, >>> ELCE, the Japan Jamborees, and various other events). >> >> Very true! >> >> What about live streaming, to reach more people? :-) > > We did live-streaming at ELC, but (for reasons I'm not aware of) > will not be live-streaming ELCE. I think the plan going forward > is to live-stream as much as possible. Free Electrons plans to > be at ELCE and record video again (thanks very much!!) > >>> To be less abstract: I'm leaning towards having a "size" summit at >>> ELC. What's the best way to get people there who are (still) >>> interested in reducing the kernel and user-space size for embedded >>> Linux systems? >> >> Well, that's in fact *really* special, as even in Embedded, size isn't >> so much of an issue as it was previously. However, due to our Cortex-M3 >> activities, it is currently interesting for us. > This is exactly the type of thing I'm interested in hearing about! > > I started looking at some size issues on Coretex-M3 back in May. Then > I went to LinuxCon Japan in June, and during a lightning session a > developer there started talking about how he was working on Coretex-M3. > I about fell out of my chair. > I suspect this scenario is rampant within each area of development. > I think concern about size is ready for a comeback!! At least, that's > what I'm hoping. :-) > -- Tim > > P.S. BTW: My goal is kernel in 1M and system in 4M RAM (with 8M NOR flash, > so, you know, XIP and all is OK.) If anyone has got a system running > close to these specs, let me know. I'd REALLY love to hear about it. > > P.P.S. Note that the virtualization guys would love a system this small, > if it wasn't hobbled too bad. Think of the number of images you could > run (and charge for) simultaneously on big hardware if you could get Linux > to go this small. I have some crazy ideas about how to get there, > based on some academic research I've found... > > ============================= > Tim Bird > Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation > Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment > ============================= _______________________________________________ Celinux-dev mailing list Celinux-dev@lists.celinuxforum.org https://lists.celinuxforum.org/mailman/listinfo/celinux-dev