Centroids:
I have no idea who this  is. Whomever he turns out to be,
he isn't very well educated, and he is as uncritical about politics  as
anyone gets.

Some of his musings struck me as absurd and  based on the most
careless readings of our e-mails imaginable.

I could use some Comparative Religion ?  At the risk of causing  many
Centroids another yawn at hearing it for the 15th time, since I taught  the
subject at the college level and, I think most will agree, know the  subject
as only  a professional does, what on Earth does our lurker mean to  say ?
That we should defer to his ignorance of the subject as some sort of
wisdom since it takes the Democratic Party line and Obama is in
the White House --as if that point of view is unarguable ?

Whomever this is, is clueless  about RC despite however many times he  has
lurked.
His working assumption seems to be that is you disagree with ANY of the 
policies
of the Democratic Party you necessarily are Right-wing bigot. All the  while
not for one minute seeing how prejudiced he happens to be.

Overlooked in his rant , if he ever noticed, are the many times I have
criticized
laissez faire economics, my strong critiques of George W Bush, and my  dim
view of anti-evolution beliefs or  opposition to stem cell research.  Last
I heard on these issues I take the Democratic party outlook,
as do many of us at this forum.


My best guess, maybe he a HS grad, maybe one year of college max, and
probably not in the social sciences   This fellow sounds to me  like a Left
wing
version of  Rush Limbaugh.

Sure, a few points that make good sense, but otherwise a political  hack.

Basically irrelevant  -not to mention misinformed about many  things.

thanks, but no thanks
Billy

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In a message dated 8/9/2009 2:50:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

Hi Mr. Billy

Its been awhile since I had a chance to respond to your long diatribes of
your own personal ramblings & rants. I have been showing some restraint,
but seems that you could use some comparative religion to go with your former
teaching or whatever your latest windbag previous professions have been.

Anyway, in your past writings it seems you have a penchant for running
down & criticising the liberals & Dems as well as Islam, homosexurals  and a
slew of others. Now you have a list of all the American political  parties
that you seem fit to remember, and all that in just 100-pages or  so.

I am adding a short synopsis and comparison of what I believe is the
difference between the two major parties (Dems & Reps) and the two major  ideas
(Liberal & Conservative) based upon the accomplishments of what we  consider
Red states & Blue states.

Yours Truly, The Lurker


Red State Moral Values
After the election our nation is more divided than ever.  We are constantly
swimming in a media barrage of colored maps and  pontification of the red
state versus blue state rift in America. We're  told it has been an election
about "moral values", as if somehow we blue  state voters on the losing side
are somehow supporting an immoral  cause.
I decided to do a little reality-based research into  just what kind of
moral example I should be following. Since the voters  in the red states have a
lock on morality, maybe it is time to look at  just how well their morals
have been working for them. I combed through  some state-by-state statistics
compiled from the US census, searching  for the true effect of red state
moral values. Here's what I  learned:
Marxist style "from each according to ability,  to each according to need"
welfare socialism is a good  thing.
The blue states have an enormous tax  base and pay disproportionately high
taxes into the government compared  to the money they receive from the
government. The red  states pay very little in taxes and receive
disproportionately  high returns from the government. "Paying your own way" is 
for losers;
red states believe in sharing the wealth.
For every dollar paid in taxes, red state North Dakota  gets $2.03 back
from the government. The rest of the Top Ten  Federal Welfare Queens are New
Mexico, Mississippi,  Alaska, West Virginia, Montana, Alabama, South Dakota,
Arkansas, and  Virginia, all red states, all receiving between $1.89  to
$1.47 back for every dollar. (To be fair, the District of Columbia is  the
biggest welfare queen, at $6.17 on the dollar, but it's not really a  state.
By contrast, eight of the Top Ten Federal  Sugar Daddies (states that get
less back in federal money  than taxes paid) are blue states. New Jersey only
gets  62¢ back on its one dollar investment. Connecticut, New Hampshire,
Illinois, Minnesota, Massachusetts, California, and New York all receive  64¢
to 81¢ back for each dollar taxed. Nevada and Colorado, both red  states,
fall into this category as well, though I'm not sure states that  contain Las
Vegas and Aspen are true representatives of red  states.
Marriage "until death do us part" is a sacred  union before God, unless it
becomes a pain in the  ass.
The blue states, those hotbeds of gay marriage and  "living in sin", also
seem to be the places where couples are least  likely to get divorced.
Massachusetts – the only state to sanction gay  marriage – has the lowest rate 
of
divorce per capita. The  Top Ten 'Til Death Do Us Part states with the
lowest divorce rate include the blue states of Connecticut, New Jersey,  Rhode
Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Maryland, and  Minnesota, with
North Dakota being the only red state to make the  list.
By contrast, all of states with the highest divorce  rates are red states.
Of the Top Ten Irreconcilable  Differences states, Nevada, unsurprisingly,
leads the  pack, followed by Arkansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Wyoming, Indiana,
 Alabama, Idaho, New Mexico, and Florida.
Maybe this shouldn't come as a surprise when you  consider the example of
the pundits and leaders that are so beloved in  the red states: Ronald Reagan
(divorced), Bob Dole (divorced), Newt  Gingrich (divorced his wife while
she was in the hospital dying of  cancer), George Will (divorced), Rush
Limbaugh (divorced three times!),  and John McCain (divorced). To be fair, John
Kerry and many other  Democrats have gotten divorced, too, but they never used
"sanctity of  marriage" as a political wedge issue.
If grandma and grandpa have to choose between  rent and prescriptions, it's
only because they were too stupid or lazy  to plan ahead for old age.
When you check the statistics of elderly persons living  below the poverty
level, it is not so good to be a senior citizen in a  red state. The Top Ten
Eating Cat Food to  Survive states are all red, led by Mississippi with
almost  19% of its seniors in poverty, followed by Louisiana, Alabama,
Kentucky,  South Carolina, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina, and New
Mexico.
The Top Ten Living the Golden  Years states do provide a surprise with the
reddest state,  Utah, leading the pack with only a little less than 6% of
its seniors  living below the poverty level, followed by Alaska. However, six
of the  ten states are blue (Oregon, Washington, Hawaii, Wisconsin, New 
Hampshire, and Connecticut). Colorado and Nevada round out this Top  Ten.
Growing up without decent housing, clothing,  healthcare, and food builds
character.
The percentage of children living in poverty shows that  it's better to be
a kid in a blue state. Nine of the Top Ten  No New School Clothes This Year,
Either states are red,  led by Mississippi with almost 27% of their kids
living in poverty,  followed by Louisiana, New Mexico, West Virginia,
Arkansas, Alabama,  Kentucky, Texas, and Oklahoma. The only blue state in the 
Top
Ten was  New York, coming in ninth.
The blue states comprise seven out of the  Top Ten New Hundred Dollar
Athletic Shoes Every School  Year states, topped by New Hampshire at 7.3% of
their kids  in poverty, followed by Minnesota, Connecticut, Maryland, Vermont,
New  Jersey, and Wisconsin. Only Utah, Iowa, and Colorado did as well at
keeping their kids out of poverty.
God loves poor people so much that he made a  whole lot of 'em.
The red state love of poverty hits more than just  children and the
elderly. Mississippi hits the poverty trifecta, leading  the pack with almost 
20%
of all their citizens in poverty. The rest of  the Top Ten Living from
Paycheck to Paycheck  states are all red, which includes Louisiana, New Mexico,
West Virginia,  Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas, Oklahoma, and Montana.
On the other side, the eight of the Top Ten  Taking The Family On A Real
Vacation states are blue,  beginning with New Hampshire's rate of 6.5% of
people in poverty,  followed by Connecticut, Minnesota, Maryland, New Jersey,
Wisconsin,  Delaware, and Massachusetts. Only the red states Iowa and Colorado
 bucked the trend.
Sometimes, though, God makes a few too many poor  people and has to take
some back.
When you're born in a red state, there's about a 1-in-5  chance of ending
up in poverty. So it's better for these kids to not  survive infancy at all.
Of the Top Ten Good Luck Seeing A  Birthday Cake states, nine of them are
the red states of  Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, North
Dakota,  Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arkansas, with infant mortality
 rates that range as high as 10.5 deaths per 1,000 live births.
Surprisingly, blue Delaware tops them all at 10.7, which just shows that  there 
is
some hope for morality in the blue states.
When you look at the Top Ten Likely to Eat  Solid Food Everyday states,
once again it's good to be in  New Hampshire, where only 3.8 out of 1,000
babies die, followed by six  more blue states (New Hampshire, Massachusetts,
Minnesota, California,  Oregon, Vermont, and Washington). Your kid is also
likely to eventually  take baby steps in the red states of Utah, Iowa, and
Nevada.
The best kind of housing is made in a  factory.
Being poor in a red state means that you have the  freedom to hook up a big
truck to your house and tow it to another  place. Home ownership is for
leftists; real freedom means living in a  trailer house… I mean "mobile home"…
no, make that "manufactured home".  The Top Ten Houses Likely To Be Wiped
Out By God's Wrath  During Tornado Season states are all red, led by South
Carolina, where one out of five houses are delivered, not built.  Rounding
out the Top Ten are New Mexico, West Virginia, Mississippi,  North Carolina,
Alabama, Wyoming, Arkansas, Montana, and  Kentucky.
Compare that to the Top Ten Houses without  Wheels states, which are all
blue, led by Hawaii, where  only two-tenths of a percent of the homes are
mobile. I suppose being in  the middle of the Pacific Ocean also has something
to do with this. The  other nine states in this list are Connecticut,
Massachusetts, New  Jersey, Rhode Island, Maryland, New York, Illinois, 
California,
and  Wisconsin.
You can do everything you need to do in this  world with a high school
edumacation.
Everyone knows that the only thing college will do for  our youth is
indoctrinate them into wicked liberal philosophy and  immoral behavior. That's 
why
the red states feel it is so important to  keep their kids out of these
bastions of depravity. The Top  Ten We Don't Need No Education states are all
red, led by  West Virginia, where only a little less than 16% of people age
25 or  older have a Bachelor's Degree or more, followed by Arkansas, Wyoming,
 Oklahoma, Idaho, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, and  Nevada.
By contrast, the Top Ten I've Got An Alma  Mater states are dominated by
blue states, starting with  Maryland at over 37%, followed by Virginia,
Massachusetts, Connecticut,  New Jersey, Vermont, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and
Rhode Island. Only  red Colorado managed to crack this list.
Traffic fatalities just weed out the weak and  ineffective drivers.
Have you ever driven around the congested traffic of a  blue state and
longed for the wide-open road of the American heartland?  Well, forget about it,
commie, because out in the red states they don't  concern themselves with
such nanny-state concepts as safety. When you  compare traffic fatalities per
100,000,000 miles driven, only the strong  survive in "flyover country".
The Top Ten Mad Max beyond  Thunderdome states are all red, with Louisiana
knocking  off 2.32 drivers, followed by Montana, South Carolina, Mississippi,
Wyoming, Arkansas, Arizona, South Dakota, New Mexico, and  Florida.
If you don't feel like driving like a real man, consider  the Top Ten
Sitting Like A Dolt in a Traffic  Jam states, nine of which are baby blue, led 
by
 Massachusetts with only 0.9 dead drivers per 100,000,000 miles, followed
by Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Minnesota, New Jersey, New
Hampshire, New York, and Washington. Only Utah made it into this list,  just 
creeping
in at 10th place.
The so-called "energy crisis" is just a myth  made up by a vast left-wing
conspiracy.
Don't let anyone fool you with talk of conservation of  finite precious
natural resources or the pending ecological disaster of  global warming. God
gave us everything on earth to use up just as fast  as we possibly can. Of the
Top Ten I Got Yer Greenhouse  Gases Right Here, Pal states, nine of them
are red, led by  Alaska's use of over one billion BTU's per person per year.
The other  red states in the list include Louisiana, Wyoming, Montana, North
Dakota, Texas, Kentucky, Indiana, and Alabama. The only blue state to  make
the list, coming in 10th, was Maine (not always a blue  state).
On the opposite end, eight of the Top Ten  Look I'm a Tree-Hugging
Enviro-Fairy states are blue,  starting with Hawaii, where they only consume 219
million BTU's per  person per year. This list also includes Rhode Island, New
York,  California, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Massachusetts.
Two  red states, Arizona and Florida (they went blue this time), also made
the list.
So take heart, blue states. We've got the sage wisdom of  poor divorced
high school graduates in trailer houses choosing the  people who will provide
us clear moral leadership on the economy,  marriage, education, and housing.
The states that take the most federal  welfare, yet still can't adequately
provide for their very old or very  young, will control the tough decisions
about health care and Social  Security. The places consuming the most energy
will direct our policy on  the environment. Now, just stay out of their way
or they'll run you over  in their pickup truck.
To sum it all up:
A Blue State person is probably a  Liberal, Democrat, Educated, Highest Avg
IQs, College Degree, Good  Income well above the National Average, Good Job
or Owns a  Business, has Family Health Insurance, owns a House (built on
site),  Owns a New Vehicle, takes Yearly Family Vacations, lives in a Low
Crime  Rate area, Family is in Good Health with all their Teeth, Will Live
Longer, has Lower Divorce Rate, eats Better Food, Worth a Million  when they
Die, a Better Life. What A Life! They got Obama  elected.
A Red State person is probably a  Conservative, Republican, Born Again
(probably many times), Bigoted,  Under-Educated, Lowest Avg IQs, High School
Diploma or GED or even  less, Low Income well below the National Average, Bad
Job, No Family Health Insurance, owns or rents a Manufactured
House/Trailer, Owns a Beater Vehicle, Vacations only when Laid  Off from Work, 
lives in a
High Crime Rate area, Family is in Poor  Health, Missing Teeth, Shorter
Life Span, has High Divorce  Rate when or if Married, Lives Off of Fast Junk
Food, Gets Welfare or Assistance, Incest a Way of Life. Worth  Nothing when
they Die, That's A Life? They got George W Bush elected.  Yee Haw!
This last election, a few traditional Red States went Blue, but they  will
probably go back to being Red along with their rotten teeth, if  any.





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