Ernie :
Maybe the NAS is supposed to monitor developments in society  that are
science relevant, maybe also keep tabs on the Congress, but it is news to 
me that it acts as a shadow government.
 
Anyway, thanks for your response to the idea. 
 
The message got through to me that we need changes in science  education,
both in the formal and informal sense.  I was a little disappointed  that 
the only
suggestion offered --while it has its merits--  was not all that  
imaginative.
So I asked myself what just might do the trick if it had serious  support.
 
I wonder if the NAS might one day take something like this to heart.
Probably doubtful, but worth discussion down the road.
 
Billy
 
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In a message dated 8/30/2009 10:02:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi  Billy,

On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>  We cannot toss out the Congress and replace it with, as Saint-Simon   
> wanted for France,
> a "Council of Newton," of scientists of  many kinds, to act as the  
> legislature of a republic.
>  But how about such a council as a shadow government ?
>
> Could be  quite telegenic, even if it met only a few times per year.  
>  Committees might
> be televised on a more regular basis. Otherwise its  members might  
> communicate via
> e-mails and submit  material to a "Newton website."
>
> The idea is this : What would  scientists recommend by way of  
> legislation ?
> AND, when  there is science related legislation on the Hill, what do  
>  actual
> scientists think about the bill or bills ? Finally, such a  council  
> might do much
> to popularize science for the  sake of public knowledge and better  
> attitudes,
> and in  the process help stimulate a more robust "science market."  
> Many  ways
> it could do so, but one of them might be an on-going critique of  TV  
> and Hollywood.


Alas, that's nominally what the  National Academy of Science is more-or- 
less supposed to be, and  (politically speaking) to first order it  
tends to act as a special  interest group for science funding.

To make this work would require a  major shift in how scientists are  
educated, and even in how they  perceive themselves.  Worth doing,  
perhaps, but not a small  task...

-- Ernie  P.


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