Kevin  :
Thoughtful critique. However,  your assumption seems to be that laissez 
faire is  the
font of all economic good and  if only we got rid of the Fed , then Utopia
would be around the  corner.
 
Let me grant the worth of some  of your arguments. Among other things the 
Fed
has the severe limitation that  just about all it can do is tinker with 
monetary  policy.
The result is the "hammer  problem." When the only tool you have is a 
hammer, 
all problems look like  nails.
 
Trouble is, our economy, like  all advanced economies, is 
multi-dimensional, a  fact
that laissez faire theory  doesn't really allow for. Smithians assume an 
"innocent  marketplace"
when pure competition not only  can exist but necessarily will exist   -as 
long as  the
big bad government keeps out  of things.
 
This model has never been true and can never become true.
 
Too many special interests.
Too much unfair competition, the equivalent of a butcher with his thumb on  
the scale.
Too many outside players  -multinationals and foreign gvts-  who  could 
care less
  about our rules or priorities.
And much more.
 
One problem cannot be attributed to Smith himself, since he wrote a whole  
book
about one of the issues you raised, moral hazards. Essentially he said that 
 unless
a society has a strong moral culture the economy will necessarily be  
cutthroat,
unjust, avaricious, and you name it.
 
And no-one can possibly say that American culture as it currently exists  
has a
strong moral foundation. If anything , it has an amoral foundation based  on
unfettered greed, or at least obliviousness to the common good.
 
In other words, dismantling the Fed, I guess this is your underlying  
objective,
simply would create a new set of problems.
 
There still would be capital flight, either to Delaware or the Caymans,  
there still
would be shipment of jobs overseas, there still would be dangerous levels  
of
technology transfer, and much else. Worse, there would be additional  woes
to contemplate, we can be sure of that even if exactly what is currently  
unclear.
 
After all, did the Fed create derivatives ? I don't think so, in fact the  
major headaches
caused by derivatives blind-sided the Fed, at least according to  Greenspan.
In a previous decade the big issue was the wild gambling behavior of hedge  
funds,
also outside the purview of the Fed.
 
As well, the laissez faire values of the Bushies made sure that vital  
regulations
were junked so that margins could go to hell, basically, with leverage  
ratios
sometimes around 25 or 30, when 10 or so is the most that is  prudent.
 
Then there is the anti-Fed, at least by way of metaphor, the international  
financial
system which moves trillions of dollars around, almost by the hour,  chasing
fractional gains to be multiplied millions of times over to yield billions  
in
unearned profits. This destabilizes every nations' best efforts to  create
sustainable economies for their populations.
 
Yet you seem to think such things can be ignored with impugnity.
 
As for "creative destruction," sure, Schumpeter is sometimes right,  maybe
even often right. But ALWAYS right ? ? ?
 
Because of this False Absolute we now have a hollowed out  economy  with 
a way too large section of our industrial base now in China, Korea, Japan,  
and
elsewhere. And some industries are necessary for basic national  security.
Let electronics vanish from the USA ?  We have almost done exactly  that
and no longer produce TV sets, CD players, and you name it, or only  produce
a fraction of what we could manufacture, because it supposedly is  good
to maximize profits at the expense of just about everything else. But  this
isn't sound economic policy, it is social and political  irresponsibility.
 
 
 
Let me assume that various of your complaints are valid. But it seems to  me
that the solution is drastic ( radical ) redesign of the Fed, not junking  
the Fed.
 
What needs to be junked is laissez faire theory  -which is more of a  joke 
than
a serious theory of economics.
 
I'm reminded of an Anarchist ( of the peaceful variety , sort of  
Tolstoy-ist in character )
who I once worked for in New Mexico. His ideal world was the Old West  when
people were free to be "completely independent " of government and, in  the
process, could flourish as never before   --or since.
 
What self delusion.
 
Each inch of Western land was obtained by the government for them, was  
protected
for them by the military, and was serviced for them in large part because  
of
government policies, such as selectively selling public lands to RR  
companies
so that Western farmers and miners and ranchers, etc, could have  access
to markets. 
 
Were all government policies for the good ? Of course not. But the  solution
is government reform, and we got plenty of that in the Progressive Era,  
under TR
especially, and later under FDR, and if things still were not optimal at  
least
there were some changes for the better --with the possibility for 
future generations to take the reform process further.
 
Billy
 
 
============================================
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
Hi  all, new to the list, and already being opinionated. :)  

The author doesn't do a very good job of presenting the arguments of  the 
"Fed bashers," so I thought I'd chime in. Those opposed to the Fed are  
opposed for three major reasons:
 
    1.  Legality -- The Fed's position as a creator of fiat money that is  
not under the authority of any branch of government and can't be fully  
audited contradicts some language in the Constitution (art. I, § 8, cl.  5.; 
art. I, § 9, cl. 6.). This is perhaps the weakest of the three  arguments, as 
all three branches of government violate the Constitution  day in and day out 
and no one seems to mind.  
    2.  Morality -- The Fed is often said to be "waging a war against  
inflation," when in fact the Fed is the only possible cause of monetary  
inflation, as it controls the money supply. Inflation is precisely a  sinister 
form 
of tax by which the Federal Reserve (by issuing credit and  buying various 
instruments with money that didn't previously exist)  steals value from its 
constituents' savings. The Fed thus discourages  saving money, and 
(especially through below-market interest rates)  encourages spending. 
Inflation is 
an invisible tax without  representation, as long as Congress is not allowed 
any monetary power.  
    3.  Economic merit -- The strongest argument of the three. The Federal  
Reserve is the primary cause of the current recession, and by its very  
nature causes asset bubbles. It does this in two primary ways. It sets  
lower-than-market interest rates, which cause more borrowing to be done  than 
would 
be done under a free-market system, causing malinvestment (as  seen in the 
dot-com and real estate bubbles). Secondly, it implicitly  guarantees debt, 
which creates moral hazard, allowing banks and other  financial institutions 
to make investments that would not be possible  without this 
guarantee--which again causes malinvestment and results in  asset bubbles. The 
author 
actually praises the Fed for these flaws:  




The  Fed pumped out more than $1 trillion in new credit, created special  
lending programs to support faltering segments of the credit markets  
(commercial paper, money market funds) and rescued financial  institutions, 
notably 
AIG, whose bankruptcy might have triggered a  chain reaction of failures.


It's hard to imagine the  kind of economic thinking that would see 
trillions of dollars of  inflation and call that a good thing. Not to mention 
the 
government  subsidy (with taxpayer money, through inflation) of segments of 
our  economy that contributed to the malinvestment. In a healthy economy,  
dying industries must be allowed to die so that others that  don't yet exist 
may be born (see horse-and-carriage  argument).




Well, that turned into an essay. Sorry about that!


-Kevin

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
> wrote:


WPost
 
Fed 'reform' we don't want
By Robert J. Samuelson
Monday, November 30, 2009  
Ever since its creation in 1913, the Federal Reserve has grappled  with a 
daunting political contradiction. The Fed is charged with  preventing the 
collapse of the banking and financial system, whose  health is essential for 
the "real economy" of production and jobs. But  financial bailouts usually 
occur when mistakes or misdeeds by bankers  and investment professionals make 
them public pariahs. To do its job,  then, the Fed protects -- or seems to 
protect -- an unpopular, disgraced  and undeserving group. We are now 
witnessing this contradiction in full  bloom.  
The Fed has become a congressional scapegoat for assorted economic  
frustrations: 10.2 percent _unemployment_ (http://www.washin
gtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110600555.html) ; 
expensive rescues of fragile 
financial  institutions (AIG, Bear Stearns, Citigroup); outsize Wall Street 
 bonuses; and the crisis itself. The denunciations transcend rhetorical  
outbursts. The House Financial Services Committee recently _voted_ 
(http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2009/11/house-financial-services-committee-passes-paul
grayson-amendment-to-audit-the-fed.html)  to require the Government 
Accountability Office  (GAO) to "audit" the Fed's monetary policy -- its 
efforts to 
influence  interest rates and credit conditions. In the Senate, Christopher 
Dodd,  chairman of the Banking Committee, has _proposed_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110901935.html)
  
stripping the Fed of all powers to regulate  financial institutions -- its 
actions 
to police lending and management  practices. These powers would go to a new 
agency.  
The Fed backlash is bipartisan. Rep. Ron Paul, a Republican and  
libertarian, proposed the GAO audit, which he sees as a first step  toward 
abolishing 
the Fed ("End the Fed" is his latest book). Paul  favors resurrecting the 
gold standard and combining it with private  money; Wal-Mart could issue 
currency. His views are long-standing,  principled -- and wholly impractical. 
Dodd, of course, is a Democrat.  Much Fed-bashing simply indulges Congress's 
impulse to blame someone  else for anything unpleasant.  
Lost in this politically charged climate is the reality that the Fed,  more 
than any other government agency, arguably stopped last fall's  financial 
panic from becoming a global depression. The Fed pumped out  more than $1 
trillion in new credit, created special lending programs to  support faltering 
segments of the credit markets (commercial paper,  money market funds) and 
rescued financial institutions, notably AIG,  whose bankruptcy might have 
triggered a chain reaction of failures.  These were seat-of-the-pants 
responses, taken in the midst of crisis and  pervasive uncertainty. We will 
never 
know what might have happened  without them. The second-guessing is occurring 
now when there's less  fear and more information.  
What's also overlooked is that the Fed isn't the super-secretive,  
unaccountable agency of political stereotype. In 2009, Fed officials  from 
Chairman 
Ben Bernanke on down have testified 32 times before  congressional 
committees. The Fed makes detailed disclosures about its  policies. After every 
meeting, the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC),  the key decision-making 
body 
on monetary policy, issues a statement  explaining why it has -- or hasn't 
-- changed its interest-rate target.  Until 1994, there were no announcements 
after FOMC meetings. Economists  and investors had to guess.  
Contrary to conventional wisdom, the Fed's activities are already  widely 
audited. Deloitte & Touche examines the Fed's financial  statements, which 
are published. The GAO can audit many Fed activities,  including its banking 
regulation and supervision of the payments system.  What it's barred from 
auditing is the conduct of monetary policy,  including relations with foreign 
central banks such as the European  Central Bank.  
Congress has so far sensibly put this off limits. "Audit" has a  different 
meaning in the context of the GAO than in everyday usage. It  means examine, 
investigate, evaluate and, often,  criticize. It's not just crunching 
numbers. The GAO usually  undertakes studies at the request of someone in 
Congress. This suggests  that the GAO could be used to influence or intimidate 
the 
Fed through  selective investigations, which would involve access to 
internal Fed  documents and interviews with policymakers. The Fed might be 
pressured  to finance government deficits or to adopt an "undue focus on the 
short  
term," Vice Chairman Donald Kohn _testified_ 
(http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/testimony/kohn20090709a.htm)  before 
Congress on July 9. 
Historically,  similar pressures have caused other central banks to unleash  
inflationary torrents of money, Kohn said.  
This is not inevitable, but even the impression that the Fed's  
"independence" is compromised could perversely undermine confidence in  the 
dollar, 
leading to higher market interest rates or a rapid fall in  the dollar's 
foreign exchange value. Massive projected government budget  deficits compound 
the 
psychological damage. Similar objections apply to  Dodd's proposal to end 
the Fed's power to examine and regulate financial  institutions. If this 
crisis teaches anything, it is that the Fed needs  to know more -- not less -- 
about large financial institutions.  
The Fed isn't infallible. Its mistakes contributed to the crisis. Its  
present low-interest-rate policy poses dangers of fostering inflation or  new 
"asset bubbles." But the congressional Fed-bashing poses greater  dangers. 
Ironically, the destructive remedies being peddled are part of  "financial 
reform" legislation. If this is "reform," we're better off  without it.  



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