Ernie :
How do you obey scripture when, for example, a text like Malachi  1: 11 is 
as
ecumenical as anyone can think of,  and another verse, such as  Ezra 9 : 1 ,
is as  anti-ecumenical as anyone might come up with ? 
 
Before a recommendation to obey scripture can make good sense it is
necessary to be convincing to the effect that the Bible is  
non-contradictory.
Otherwise you end up with recommending both "A" and "anti-A"
 
Some things are prior to others.
 
Billy
 
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In a message dated 12/11/2009 11:32:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Kevin  and Lennart,

On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Lennart Johansson  wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
>> If I accept a priori that the  text is true and contains no 
contradictions, I will not stop at little  differences between translations.
> 
> What about minor  contradictions, within a translation or even
> translations (and  presumably within the original text) that does not
> really alter the  meaning of the text? Like in Matt. 10:9-10  where
> Jesus says  "Take... no bag for your journey, or two tunics, or
> sandals, or a  staff..." but in Mark 6:8-9 he says "Take nothing for
> [your] journey  except a staff..." We can throw in Luke 9:3 and the 3
> passages seems  to contradict. Yet, the main point being something like
> "go, and trust  that God will take care of you" is still the truth in
> all 3  passages?

I think part of the problem is that inerrancy isn't usually  defined very 
precisely.  For example, I usually hear it defined as "the  plain meaning of 
the original manuscripts is without substantive error." While  I'm not 
entirely sure why the written word gets priority over oral tradition,  I can 
understand the preference.  The tricky part is "original".   Modern Hebrew 
didn't exist until at least Ezra, and anything Moses wrote  would've been in 
something completely different -- perhaps even Hieroglyphics.  And I'm sure 
Billy would give you an earful about what can happen in 1,000  years of 
transmission...

I think part of the obsessive focus on  inerrant Scripture -- as opposed to 
mere "infallibility" -- comes from the  Protestant desire to have something 
a perfectly authoritative as the Pope (or  even "science" ;-).  The reality 
is that even if you accept strict  inerrancy,  there's a lot of nuance and 
subjective decision making  involved in interpreting Scripture. 

Frankly, if Christians did a  better job of actually *obeying* Scripture, I 
think we'd have a lot less  arguments about the right way to interpret or 
define its nature...

--  Ernie P.
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