Bible Problems
 
 
Centroids :
Following are some contradictions  in the Bible--they seem to be  exactly 
that to me--  
culled from a variety of sources, Atheist, Muslim, scholarly, etc. Not that 
 you 
can't find Atheists contradicting each other, and not that the many errors  
and 
contradictions in the Qur'an aren't well documented, but in point of fact  
all
kinds of people have pointed out  that the Bible is laced with  
inconsistencies.
 
The following are just a few. Do a Google search, type in "Bible  
contradictions,"
and you will get hundreds.  How many, added up,  I cannot  say.
 
Some, not listed here, can be explained well enough, but these are some  
which
strike me as glaringly obvious. And this doesn't even count simple mistakes 
 or
predictions that never came true, like the depopulation of Egypt after a  
Babylonian
invasion that, historically, only got as far as the Delta, and then turned  
back, with
99% of Egypt still  intact. Since the Babylonians are no longer with  us, 
are gone
forever as Jeremiah understood them, this prophecy can never be  fulfilled.
 
The worse problems, though, concern intentions of sometimes very  different
Bible authors. For example, the writer of Esther vs the writer of Nehemiah. 
 The
conflicts of viewpoint, universalism vs narrow-minded exclusionism,  are
unbridgeable as I interpret the texts. My solution is to outright reject  
Nehemiah
and outright accept Esther as sacred text.
 
No problems like these can be wished away. For me it would be pure  
dishonesty
to pretend that these problems can be expunged by some sort of  acrobatic
word games or rationalizations, no difficulties remaining. That isn't  
possible.
Not as I see it.
 
So the result is an imperfect overall book, the Bible, but with a "perfect" 
 message
underneath all the problems. At least a perfect message if you dismiss  some
parts, like Nehemiah. Even Nehemiah may contain truths, and I accept  those
individual truths , but not the overall message of that writer.
 
But don't we face these kinds of  problems throughout all of our lives  ?  
Each of us 
are imperfect human beings. In classical Christian terms, we are all  
sinners and
we all fall short of the glory of God. This, as I see it, applies to  the 
writers
of the Bible also. OK, then, there are problems. Let's do the best we  can
after admitting that these problems exist, including a fair number of
contradictions, and then simply move on  -- to all the great good  in 
everything else.
 
This is how I see it, anyway.
 
If anyone takes another view that is their prerogative, but then  another
set of problems exist which are outside of the Bible. This has to do  with
credibility. To accept anything a priori there needs to be  justification
which can convince those who do not share that same viewpoint.
If not, communication between people can result in disagreements
for which resolutions may not be feasible. Are we stuck with that
or can we do better ?
 
Billy
 
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Galatians 1:8-9  In case the Galatians were disposed  to hear from both 
sides, and weigh the pros and cons of each, Paul lays a curse  on anyone who 
teaches a gospel different from what he preached to the Galatians.  In fact, 
he curses them twice. In an age where magic and sorcery seemed very  real to 
people, such a curse may well have carried a powerful disincentive to  ass
ociate with anyone who taught a doctrine opposed to Paul. There is a  
different view, expressed in the first letter of John, where the believers in  
Christ are advised to “not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see  
whether they are of God.” (1 John 4:1) Paul himself seems to countenance such a 
 view in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, telling his followers to “test everything.” 
Here  in Galatians, though, they are told not to test, but to reject, all 
teachings  other than Paul’s. 
 
 
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    1.  The  announcement of the special birth came before conception. 
Lk.1:26-31.
The  announcement of the special birth came after conception. Mt.1:18-21.   
    2.  Jesus' parents  were told of their son's future greatness. 
Mt.1:18-21; Lk.1:28-35.
Jesus'  parents knew nothing of their son's potential.  Lk.2:48-50
 
 
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God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,  
sacrifices ,and holy days 
Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev  1:9 
God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,  
sacrifices, and holy days. 
Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is  1:13,11,12 
 
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How Many Languages ?
It is commonly assumed that before God destroyed the Tower of Babel and  
confounded humanity’s languages, there was only one language, as written in  
Genesis 11. However, earlier in the same book (Genesis 10:5,20), gentiles and 
 the sons of Ham are described as “divided in their lands; every one after 
his  tongue,” prior to the events [ described  in chapter 11 ].
 
 
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Who incited David to count  the fighting men of Israel?    
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24:  1)    
(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2  1:1)
 
     
In that count how many  fighting men were found in Israel?    
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel  24:9)   (b)  One million, one hundred 
thousand (IChronicles  21:5)
 
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         God knows the  hearts of men
Acts  1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries  men to find out what is in their  heart
Deut 13:3/  Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
 
 
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...the very first page of the New Testament introduces [ this  ] major 
contradiction: inconsistent genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and  Luke. Some 
have 
"explained" this by saying that Luke is the genealogy of Mary;  such a 
claim acknowledges error, since Luke specifically states that it is the  
genealogy of JOSEPH [Luke 3:23], just like Matthew [Matt 1:16]. So, either 
there  
is a contradiction (Matthew says that Jacob is the father of Joseph; Luke 
says  Heli is the father of Joseph, and from there back to Solomon not a single 
name  is the same; not even the same number of generations), or one of them 
is making  an incorrect statement about a relevant fact for Jesus' claim to 
the House of  David.
 
 
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The Gadarene Swine: Apparently, Jesus sent a bunch of _demons_ 
(http://everything2.com/title/demon)  in to a herd of pigs and then made them 
all jump  
off a cliff. The Hebrew farmers got annoyed at this, because the pigs were  
expensive... and who wouldn't? Except that Hebrews don't eat pork, and pigs  
don't make great pets.  
Actual explanation for this one: No one has ever managed to  explain this 
to me, and I've asked religious people, _religious fanatics_ 
(http://everything2.com/title/religious+fanatics) , priests and all sorts of 
people  who 
ought to know. 
 
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Should we steal?
    *   EXODUS 20:15 "Thou shalt not steal."  
    *   LEVITICUS 19:13 "Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor, neither rob 
him."  
vs. 
    *   EXODUS 3:22 "And ye shall spoil the Egyptians."  
    *   EXODUS 12:35-36 "And they spoiled [plundered, NRSV] the Egyptians." 
 
    *   LUKE 19:29-34 "[Jesus] sent two of his disciples, Saying, Go ye 
into the  village . . . ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: 
loose  him, and bring him hither. And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose 
him? thus  shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him. . . . And 
as they  were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose 
ye the  colt? And they said, The Lord hath need of him." 


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