On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <
[email protected]> wrote:

Instead, I want to stake out a position that everyone who care about truth
> would agree with, and use *that* as a starting point for discussion and
> debate about *means*.
>
> To wit, here is what I think is the strongest statement easily justified by
> an objective study of the evidence:
>
> "Mainstream Islam appears inherently dysfunctional".
>

>From a spiritual perspective, I think the blame for all the madness is on
the inherent immaturity mind of the people. I believe when Bible talks about
sin, it refers not to events or doings but the source of all evil, the human
ego. The only time when Quran deserves fault is when it fails to spark a
light out of the spiritual darkness. But Quran is just a record of
recitation of Mohammad and why are we pointing finger at non-conscious
scriptures when the real imperfection lies with us?


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
*For me the question comes down to this : Why remain a Muslim when there are
so many superior alternatives ?*

That is actually a very interesting question. I believe that is what
paranoid Mr Billy the most.

>From a surface view, we can say that majority of Muslim are unaware of this
problem. How would anyone expect that a mainstream faith for one-third of
the world's population, be so terribly wrong? Plus, they are naturally
unmotivated to question their own faith, not because the book prohibit them
from doing so, but because it is just so human to hold on to certain
identity (a psychoanalysis view).

Religious identity is so deep rooted, it is difficult to get rid, unless one
is 'really lucky enough' to have something terribly wrong happening to
him/her. One example is when someone witness an 'orthodox' massacre in the
name of his/her religion. The person must also be, spiritually saying, waken
beyond ordinary wakening, to see such a truth. This identity problem affects
everybody, though more importantly, the more religious group of people.
These people are bless with the opportunity to uncover the truth behind
scriptures, and identity inhabits that natural process.

Of cause, as much as I want to agree with Mr Billy, I have another set of
concern. Consider me a 'skeptic of skepticism'. What if the mainstream Islam
got *it all wrong from the beginning*? If that is so, it defends the Qu'ran
blame. There have been many different ways of interpreting the Qu'ran. I
particularly likes the Sufis way, which I believe is heading for the better.
Nevertheless, this will still leave all the blame on "Mainstream Islam", and
Dr Ernie's statement still stands.

>From historical point of view, I think that, like any political ideology
today, Islam was an attempt by politicians at that time to consolidate
power. For this view, I have similar suspicion towards Judaism in ancient
Israel as well as Christianity during Roman Empire.

These are my take, wonder what do you guys thinks.
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