I am currently feeling that we have to
deal with what we have. No centrist party came about for 2008, despite
much talk here and elsewhere about one. I was actually looking forward
to one, given the choices of McBackstabber and Oshit. So I'm not so
sure that one is going to crop up now, and if a new party does crop up,
it will likely be from the Tea Parties (citing the NBC/WSJ poll that
came out today). Those folks are more economic libertarian than
anything else, but they currently out poll both major parties. As Dr.
Glenn Reynolds wrote today, It's because they haven't screwed anyone
over, and the other two have.
Assuming that nothing comes of that, we are still left with defensive
"lesser of evils" voting between the Democratic and Republican parties.
Given those choices, it really is impossible for me to support the Ds.
So I may come across as a Republican cheerleader, simply because I have
no other choice.
David
"Free
speech is meant to
protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no
protection."—Neal Boortz
[email protected] wrote:
David :
I case you haven't noticed, Radical Centrism is about, at least partly
about,
tossing brickbats at BOTH major political parties. RC is
anything but
a branch of the GOP and is anything but a branch of the DNC,
either.
I sound like the channel I hate the most , MSNBC ? How does
that figure?
I just said that here in Oregon I usually vote Republican.
Not with the least enthusiasm , but nonetheless......
Granted, I often make negative comments about Democrats, but
this should never ( as in "NEVER" ) be interpreted as somehow an
endorsement of the Republican Party.
Everything is strictly case by case, and this does mean a lot of
brickbats for both Dems and Reps. About which, with a few
exceptions
here and there, BOTH make me sick most of the time.
I do not mean that the Dems really make me sick a LOT, and the
Republicans make me sick only an itty bitty bit, I mean that
each party
while their sins tend to be different, are approximately just as
evil, warped, unwholesome, criminal, irresponsible, and diseased.
Yes, I can rattle off the failings of the Democrats with ease,
and often do just that,
during which times I guess you could say I sound like Fox TV,
but at other times
I see fit to chastise the GOP since they are about equally bad,
and my interest
in their success is also close to zero.
I really ( really, really ) don't like either major party. Both,
IMHO, are full of poop.
As an Independent you cannot possibly expect me to only
criticize the Dems
and let the Reps off the hook. There is no chance of that at all.
Thought we covered this ground a long time ago. Guess you forgot.
Billy
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In a message dated 12/17/2009 6:58:00 P.M. Pacific Standard
Time, [email protected] writes: When I started voting at the age of 18, Texas was a
one-party Democratic state. While the country was going through
Watergate, we in Texas were being treated to tales about the Sharpstown
bank of Houston, and how many state representatives and senators it
owned, not to mention the Governor and the Lt. Governor. All of them
Democrats, of course. This caused the defeat of most statewide
Democratic officials in the Democratic primaries, and great distaste
for Democrats statewide and the Republicans started their ascendancy
while nationwide they were on their downhill slide from the Nixon
years. They "arrived" by winning the Governorship in 1978, the first
Republican governor for Texas in 102 years. The elections of 1998 gave
the Republicans the state house and senate as well as the Governorship
for the first time since 1876.
On the Republicans, you sound like MSNBC (maybe that's an
overstatement, I might have to go with CNN). At least you're dissing
the Democrats as well, unlike MSNBC (and CNN). If by intellectually
unswift (new word, just made it up), you mean academia, academia has
given tenure to Ward Churchill, Norm Chomsky, and last but certainly
not least, the Climate Fraudsters. If that's what it takes to be swift
intellectually, then I would rather not be so. Their pedigree of
Socialists, Marxists, and outright nutjobs is not, to me anyway,
something to emulate.
So what would make the Republican Party more intellectually swift, in
your opinion?
David
"Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular
speech, by definition, needs no protection."—Neal Boortz
[email protected] wrote:
David :
I can't respond to your points about Texas politics. I simply don't know
much at all about what is going on in your state . Here in
Oregon I usually
vote Republican since the state Democratic Party is Berkeley
North.
Other places I have lived its been the other way, where the
Republicans
have been neo-Neanderthal.
What I was trying to say in my metaphors is simply that the
Democrats
at the national level are really crazy and the Republicans
are none-too-swift intellectually.
Its not my idea of a choice. :-(
This is the candidates, not necessarily staff. Some staff
have been whiz bangs,
Stephanopoulos and Rove, for example. Very smart, each of
them, MUCH
smarter than their bosses. Or you could say that
Stephanopoulos was sane
and Clinton was crazy, Rove was a brain and W was the
anti-brain.
My opinion, anyway
Billy
Billy
In a message dated 12/16/2009 6:40:07 P.M. Pacific Standard
Time, [email protected]
writes: I see your points on left and right reversed. The
left is brain dead and the right is brain damaged. To me, the left is
more reactionary than the right. At least here lately.
I cannot identify with the neo-Marxist Democratic Party and the Chicago
style of politics in DC. All of that seems tied together with a
not-so-nice little bow on top of it. There are some Republicans that I
find appealing. There are most (95 %?) Democrats that I find appalling.
Texas Democrats could have been going somewhere in 2010. They might
have even been able to win back the Texas House.
But then we had Texas Democratic Congressmen refusing to have
"Townhall" meetings during the August recess, turning down individual
and group invitations to 50,000 watt flame thrower AM stations, and
generally being unreachable by their constituents. That's supposed to
help them with the voters down here?? Oh yeah, that'll work. NOT.
In the meantime, there has been a party switcher in the Texas House
from east Texas who went from D to R. The Democrats in Texas may avoid
a massacre, but the national party is not helping. Not. One. Bit.
And Chet Edwards of Waco (D and alleged Blue Dog), might find that his
opponent will refer to him as one of "Pelosi's puppies." That will not
go over in Waco or Bryan-College Station.
David
"Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech.
Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection."â€â€Neal
Boortz
[email protected] wrote:
Ernie :
Mostly a good article / essay. You can guess the points where I
disagree, but
let me deal with your insight about this "conservative:"
who is, for sure,
more of a Radical Centrist than otherwise --even if he
is unfamiliar with
the concept. Although IF this is true, you are hereby
commissioned
to evangelize him for our Most Noble Cause.
Come to think of it, the mainstream figures who most
resemble RC-ists
are often conservatives. Christina Hoff Sommers, for
example, or
Kevin Philips, or Charles Krauthammer, real brains and
unclassifiable in most respects.
Unfortunately, how does one identify with the Republican
Party ?
I surely cannot do so. Which, as you are well aware, is
anything but
an endorsement of the Democrats.
To put it in such terms, speaking of the top of the
ticket in all past elections
( setting aside 2008 since it is still a touchy subject
and since the candidates
last year were atypical in many ways ) since 1964, we
have been presented
with one Hobson's choice after another. To go way over
the top in any literal
sense, but to make a point, we have been able to vote
Left for a brain damaged
candidate, or vote Right for a brain dead candidate. WTH
is this ? ? ?
But speaking just of Republicans, even granting that the
Democrats may sometimes
be worse, and taking note of de facto RC-ists in GOP
ranks, how does one vote
for really sleazy characters at the top of the ticket,
or no better than wimps,
plus some lower down in the pecking order who are
equally bad ?
THIS is where de facto RC-ists have gravitated
? How does that make sense ?
Thoughts for you reflection.
More and more a confirmed Independent
Billy
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In a message dated 12/15/2009 10:55:35 P.M. Pacific
Standard Time, [email protected]
writes:
A very nice, implicitly Radical Centrist screed from
our unofficial chaplain at Apple Christian Fellowhip, Dr. Charlie Self.
He would probably consider himself a conservative, but he's not your
typical partisan...
-- Ernie P.
Peacemaking is our theme. Howard
Dean, capitalism is not the enemy and socialism is no solution. Sean
Hannity, repeating conservative mantras will not move us forward
either. Wealth creation moderated by sound ethics and governmental
policies is the way forward. Private initiative must be primary - in
business and charity, with governmental help when needed.
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