Reports have it that housing is in the process of a rebound. Not big time,  
but
far fewer losses, and gains in first time buyers  Consumer  spending also 
seems
to be going up. No guarantees, of course, and there are some warnings
about a double dip, but when a next slide downward might commence is 
anyone's guess. And there may not be another slide any time soon.
 
In other words, if a recovery takes hold and most indicators are  positive
in October, the Democrats hold on to their majorities  --even if  the
numbers are less than now.
 
I'm not saying this because I want the Dems to do OK, since the  opposite
is the case, but to try and be realistic about what we can hope for.
Especially since it is a sure bet that X number of Republicans
will turn out to be idiots or crooks. 
 
But, yeah, at least there is reason to hope  --even if no-one
can expect more than some good things to emerge  after November.
 
Billy
 
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In a message dated 4/22/2010 6:42:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

The Pew Research Poll has it 1 % lower at 22 %  (Gallup had a low of 23 %), 
so "YES, WE CAN" have a lower trust in government.  

_http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704133804575198290459062592.h
tml?mod=djemEditorialPage_h_ 
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704133804575198290459062592.html?mod=djemEditorialPage_h)
 

Their  chart is at the above link, slightly different from Gallup, showing 
similar  valleys at 1981, 1995, and now. Don't know what they were smoking 
during the  Nixon years... Or, probably better, who the heck they've both 
been polling.  

David

 
"Anyone  who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than 
people do is a  swine."--P.  J. O’Rourke 


On 4/22/2010 1:55 AM,  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  wrote:  
 
Is it possible for the numbers to get any lower ?  This is  abysmal.
Billt
 
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In a message dated 4/21/2010 9:59:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

Well, with the Marx words, my knee  is jerking again and I'm unlikely to 
see anything of value. I find his  cure frightening at the very least. 

Trust in government hasn't  been this low since Richard Nixon according to 
the graph on the page  below. And somebody wants to give them MORE power? 
Out of touch is putting  it mildly. 

_http://www.gallup.com/poll/110458/trust-government-remains-low.aspx_ 
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/110458/trust-government-remains-low.aspx) 

David

 
"Anyone  who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than 
people do  is a  swine."--P.  J. O’Rourke 


On 4/21/2010 4:02  PM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:  
Hi again,



On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:

  

The Long Downturn | NewAmerica.net

finally paying attention...

    

Here's another version covering much the same ground, in the form of an 
interview.  Brenner calls the crisis Marxian; don't know if that mean he is 
himself a Marxist, though the rest of the article would support that view. It 
would explain why most links on Google are of him being savaged by (other)? 
socialists....



_http://brechtforum.org/robert-p-brenner-crisis_ 
(http://brechtforum.org/robert-p-brenner-crisis) 



  

JEONG: Many assert that the current crisis is a typical 'Minsky crisis' not 
a Marxian one, arguing that that the financial speculation-bubble-bust has 
played the central role in this crisis. How would you respond?



BRENNER: I don’t think it's helpful to counter-pose in that way the real 
and financial aspects of the crisis. As I emphasized, it is a Marxian 
crisis, in that it finds its roots in a long term fall and failure to recover 
of 
the rate of profit, which is the fundamental source of the extended slowdown 
of capital accumulation right into the present.

    

He does at least offer one potential (admittedly dramatic) solution, though 
even he is ambivalent about it working:



  

To have a significant effect on the economy, the Obama administration will 
likely have to contemplate a huge wave of direct or indirect government 
investment, in effect a form of state capitalism. To actually accomplish this 
however would require overcoming enormous political and economic obstacles. 
The U.S. political culture is enormously hostile to state enterprise. At the 
same time, the level of expenditure and state indebtedness that would be 
required could threaten the dollar. Until now, East Asian governments have been 
happy to fund US external and government deficits, in order to sustain U.S. 
consumption and their own exports. But, with the crisis overtaking even 
China, these governments may lose the capacity to finance U.S. deficits, 
especially as they grow to unprecedented size. The truly terrifying prospect of 
a 
run on the dollar looms in the background.

    

Sobering stuff.  I'd be tempted to admire him, but the only solution he 
seems to place faith in is Marxist revolution -- not a war of ideas, but of 
power:



  

Thus there is a big opening for left ideas. The problem is that there is 
very little organization of working people, let alone, any political 
expression. So one can say there is this very big opportunity created by the 
change 
in the political environment, or the ideological climate, but that by itself 
is not going to provide a progressive outcome. So, again, the top priority 
for progressives--for any left activists--where they should be active is in 
trying to revive the organizations of working people. Without the re-creation 
of working class power, little progressive will be possible, and the only 
way to recreate that power is by way of mobilization for direct action. Only 
through working people taking action, collectively and en masse, will they 
be able to create the organization and amass the power necessary to provide 
the social basis, so to speak, for a transformation of their own 
consciousness, for political radicalization.

    

Having better organized and radically conscious working people isn't going 
to magically make communism more efficient and less corrupt than it was in 
the Soviet Union.  And maybe his Marxist bias is biasing his analysis and 
arguments. But darned if I know where...



-- Ernie P.





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