Well, although I have 7 now per node, you make a good point and I'm in a
position where I can either increase to 8 and split 4/4 and have 2 ssds, or
reduce to 5 and use a single osd per node (the system is not in production
yet).

Do all the DC lines have caps in them or just the DC s line?

-Tony

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:42:35 -0600 Tony Harris wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a small cluster together and it's running fairly well (3 nodes, 21
> > osds).  I'm looking to improve the write performance a bit though, which
> > I was hoping that using SSDs for journals would do.  But, I was wondering
> > what people had as recommendations for SSDs to act as journal drives.
> > If I read the docs on ceph.com correctly, I'll need 2 ssds per node
> > (with 7 drives in each node, I think the recommendation was 1ssd per 4-5
> > drives?) so I'm looking for drives that will work well without breaking
> > the bank for where I work (I'll probably have to purchase them myself
> > and donate, so my budget is somewhat small).  Any suggestions?  I'd
> > prefer one that can finish its write in a power outage case, the only
> > one I know of off hand is the intel dcs3700 I think, but at $300 it's
> > WAY above my affordability range.
>
> Firstly, an uneven number of OSDs (HDDs) per node will bite you in the
> proverbial behind down the road when combined with journal SSDs, as one of
> those SSDs will wear our faster than the other.
>
> Secondly, how many SSDs you need is basically a trade-off between price,
> performance, endurance and limiting failure impact.
>
> I have cluster where I used 4 100GB DC S3700s with 8 HDD OSDs, optimizing
> the write paths and IOPS and failure domain, but not the sequential speed
> or cost.
>
> Depending on what your write load is and the expected lifetime of this
> cluster, you might be able to get away with DC S3500s or even better the
> new DC S3610s.
> Keep in mind that buying a cheap, low endurance SSD now might cost you
> more down the road if you have to replace it after a year (TBW/$).
>
> All the cheap alternatives to DC level SSDs tend to wear out too fast,
> have no powercaps and tend to have unpredictable (caused by garbage
> collection) and steadily decreasing performance.
>
> Christian
> --
> Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
> ch...@gol.com           Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications
> http://www.gol.com/
>
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