Actually this might suggest that caution should be taken before enabling this 
at the moment

http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/15774


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of Nick 
> Fisk
> Sent: 23 November 2016 11:17
> To: 'Robert LeBlanc' <rob...@leblancnet.us>; 'Eugen Block' <ebl...@nde.ag>
> Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] deep-scrubbing has large impact on performance
> 
> Thanks for the tip Robert, much appreciated.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert LeBlanc [mailto:rob...@leblancnet.us]
> > Sent: 23 November 2016 00:54
> > To: Eugen Block <ebl...@nde.ag>
> > Cc: Nick Fisk <n...@fisk.me.uk>; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] deep-scrubbing has large impact on
> > performance
> >
> > If you use wpq, I recommend also setting "osd_op_queue_cut_off = high"
> > as well, otherwise replication OPs are not weighted and really reduces the 
> > benefit of wpq.
> > ----------------
> > Robert LeBlanc
> > PGP Fingerprint 79A2 9CA4 6CC4 45DD A904  C70E E654 3BB2 FA62 B9F1
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Eugen Block <ebl...@nde.ag> wrote:
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> > > Zitat von Nick Fisk <n...@fisk.me.uk>:
> > >
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On
> > >>> Behalf Of Eugen Block
> > >>> Sent: 22 November 2016 10:11
> > >>> To: Nick Fisk <n...@fisk.me.uk>
> > >>> Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] deep-scrubbing has large impact on
> > >>> performance
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the very quick answer!
> > >>>
> > >>> > If you are using Jewel
> > >>>
> > >>> We are still using Hammer (0.94.7), we wanted to upgrade to Jewel
> > >>> in a couple of weeks, would you recommend to do it now?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It's been fairly solid for me, but you might want to wait for the
> > >> scrubbing hang bug to be fixed before upgrading. I think this might
> > >> be fixed in the upcoming 10.2.4 release.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Zitat von Nick Fisk <n...@fisk.me.uk>:
> > >>>
> > >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> >> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On
> > >>> >> Behalf Of Eugen Block
> > >>> >> Sent: 22 November 2016 09:55
> > >>> >> To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
> > >>> >> Subject: [ceph-users] deep-scrubbing has large impact on
> > >>> >> performance
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Hi list,
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I've been searching the mail archive and the web for some help.
> > >>> >> I tried the things I found, but I can't see the effects. We use
> > >>> > Ceph for
> > >>> >> our Openstack environment.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> When our cluster (2 pools, each 4092 PGs, in 20 OSDs on 4
> > >>> >> nodes,
> > >>> >> 3
> > >>> >> MONs) starts deep-scrubbing, it's impossible to work with the VMs.
> > >>> >> Currently, the deep-scrubs happen to start on Monday, which is
> > >>> >> unfortunate. I already plan to start the next deep-scrub on
> > >>> > Saturday,
> > >>> >> so it has no impact on our work days. But if I imagine we had a
> > >>> >> large multi-datacenter, such performance breaks are not
> > >>> > reasonable. So
> > >>> >> I'm wondering how do you guys manage that?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> What I've tried so far:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd_scrub_sleep 0.1'
> > >>> >> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd_disk_thread_ioprio_priority 7'
> > >>> >> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd_disk_thread_ioprio_class idle'
> > >>> >> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd_scrub_begin_hour 0'
> > >>> >> ceph tell osd.* injectargs '--osd_scrub_end_hour 7'
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> And I also added these options to the ceph.conf.
> > >>> >> To be able to work again, I had to set the nodeep-scrub option
> > >>> >> and unset it when I left the office. Today, I see the cluster
> > >>> >> deep- scrubbing again, but only one PG at a time, it seems that
> > >>> >> now the default for osd_max_scrubs is working now and I don't
> > >>> >> see major impacts yet.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> But is there something else I can do to reduce the performance 
> > >>> >> impact?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > If you are using Jewel, the scrubing is now done in the client
> > >>> > IO thread, so those disk thread options won't do anything.
> > >>> > Instead there is a new priority setting, which seems to work for
> > >>> > me, along with a few other settings.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > osd_scrub_priority = 1
> > >>> > osd_scrub_sleep = .1
> > >>> > osd_scrub_chunk_min = 1
> > >>> > osd_scrub_chunk_max = 5
> > >>> > osd_scrub_load_threshold = 5
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Also enabling the weighted priority queue can assist the new
> > >>> > priority options
> > >>> >
> > >>> > osd_op_queue = wpq
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> I just found [1] and will have a look into it.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> [1] http://prob6.com/en/ceph-pg-deep-scrub-cron/
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Thanks!
> > >>> >> Eugen
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> --
> > >>> >> Eugen Block                             voice   : +49-40-559 51 75
> > >>> >> NDE Netzdesign und -entwicklung AG      fax     : +49-40-559 51 77
> > >>> >> Postfach 61 03 15
> > >>> >> D-22423 Hamburg                         e-mail  : ebl...@nde.ag
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>          Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrates: Angelika Mozdzen
> > >>> >>            Sitz und Registergericht: Hamburg, HRB 90934
> > >>> >>                    Vorstand: Jens-U. Mozdzen
> > >>> >>                     USt-IdNr. DE 814 013 983
> > >>> >>
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> > >>> Eugen Block                             voice   : +49-40-559 51 75
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> > >>> Postfach 61 03 15
> > >>> D-22423 Hamburg                         e-mail  : ebl...@nde.ag
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> > >>>            Sitz und Registergericht: Hamburg, HRB 90934
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> > > --
> > > Eugen Block                             voice   : +49-40-559 51 75
> > > NDE Netzdesign und -entwicklung AG      fax     : +49-40-559 51 77
> > > Postfach 61 03 15
> > > D-22423 Hamburg                         e-mail  : ebl...@nde.ag
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> > >                   Vorstand: Jens-U. Mozdzen
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