Hi there,

I am a bit grumpy right now, since it seems as if my router just died on me 
(trying an "emergency" flash to 3.10.6).

On Aug 14, 2013, at 23:05 , Fred Stratton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nothing is mentioned in the MIT talk.
> 
> I f the servers are not available, so work cannot be duplicated,

        The buffer bloat effort is mostly driven by enthusiasm not monetary 
gains. So as I understand it netperf servers are run by volunteers out of their 
own pocket. Given that a number of ISPs have maximum transfer volumes by months 
I think it actually is amazing that there are some server available at all. I 
think that no one would complain and rather support it if you would volunteer 
to set up a netperf server to remedy your observed lack of openness, allowing 
others to test against your router. :)

> and the meaning of terms used is not revealed anywhere, the project ceases to 
> be Open.

        Now have a look at 
https://github.com/tohojo/netperf-wrapper/blob/master/tests/rrul.conf, and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differentiated_services you can get a pretty good 
overview of what the diffent line colors per plot actually mean. My take is for 
the ADSL encapsulation tests all that matters is the average and the fact that 
is is averaged from 4 flows, so mentally multiplying the y-axis by 4 gives an 
idea about the total bandwidth used. The interesting stuff happens in the ping 
RTT plots, which you want to be as flat as possible with preferably no big 
increase once the TCP loads start.


Best Regards
        Sebastian


> 
> 
> On 14 Aug 2013, at 20:50, Fred Stratton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> If it is the 'What is wrong with wifi talk, the I have found that.
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:21, Fred Stratton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> UK and German rrul server address would be helpful, on the basis that I 
>>> shall be using them to test ADSL based configurations. For whatever reason 
>>> I could not access the Yurt resident one.  (I thought that everyone who 
>>> owned a Yurt maintained a breeding herd of goats or alpaca.)
>>> 
>>> You have given many talks. A link to the MIT talk would help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:07, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We have insufficient funding to maintain rrul servers everywhere they are 
>>>> needed. There are servers in Germany and england if they are closer to 
>>>> you? I can let you (or anyone else that asks) know the addresses 
>>>> privately... I will probably add one in Japan soon and we continue to look 
>>>> for a hosting service that will actively help....
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2013 11:01 AM, "Fred Stratton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> If the legends are not explained, the graphs cannot be interpreted.
>>>> 
>>>> A list of working servers would help, also.
>>>> 
>>>> At present there appears to be only one in the observable universe.
>>>> 
>>>> fq_codel simplest.qos 6000 down 700 up htb.
>>>> 
>>>> <fq_simplest_htb_8000_700a.png>
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